[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Twilight', 'N')o, and here is my reason in three parts:

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To summarise, the investigation showed a range of different bomb shelter designs would be ineffective against multiple strikes by a combination of ground and airburst strategic nuclear weapons.

[kadoomsoon]

If you live on the extreme western edge of the US you wont need a bomb shelter.

[deMolay]

Dino big difference between Chernobayl and an atomic bomb. The former was a melt down not a bomb burst. You have the iodine pills and a good shelter has it's own drinking water and air filtraion to remove the particles. Like I said it is a fact that if you have a good shelter and do not get a direct hit, and are outside the initial blastzone. You have a very high chance of making it ok.

[dinopello]

It's 50-50 on the poll.

I wonder what percentage of people in the 50's and 60's had built nuclear bomb shelters.

Civil defense agencies were building fallout shelters all over the country during the 1950's

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')ity workers were conducting a regular structural inspection of the bridge last Wednesday when they came across the cold-war-era hoard of water drums, medical supplies, paper blankets, drugs and calorie-packed crackers — an estimated 352,000 of them, sealed in dozens of watertight metal canisters and, it seems, still edible.

[deMolay]

Dino I think if you dug deep enough you would find that the former Communist countries invested heavily in civil defense. Knowing full well that much of the population over a large geographic area would survive, excepting of course, direct hits etc. Meanwhile the western media and various communist sympathizers in the west spread the pap that nuclear war was unservivable. And their propaganda seems to of worked on a good many sheep. Best of luck being herded around and caged up, to die slowly of radiation poisoning, and helping with the disposal of dead fellow travellers who believed the propaganda. Until you succumb yourself. All the very best.

[kadoomsoon]

You cannot predict which way the wind will blow for several weeks.

[kadoomsoon]

Earthquake free zone central western us.

[dinopello]

I guess they stopped the duck and cover drills as MAD became more accepted.

MAD lowered the probability of a conflict, rendering the drills not worth it.

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[Tanada]

Bump, blast from the past. Caught a news blurb flipping stations about how high price man-cave shelters are all the rage in certain wealthy circles.

[PrestonSturges]

I have no idea what they are planning for the Armed Forces Institute Of Pathology in Silver Spring, a massive windowless building with huge blast doors and many levels underground. How hard would it be to destroy a facility that is designed to survive a nuclear blast just outside of ground zero? What are you going do, nuke it?

[Shaved Monkey]

Communist threat paranoia has been replaced the Muslim threat paranoia but I dont know what a Sharia Law shelter would look like.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', 'C')ommunist threat paranoia has been replaced the Muslim threat paranoia but I dont know what a Sharia Law shelter would look like.

[Tanada]

Dinopello you suffer from the hollywoodation of Nuclear weapons. They were never as capable of destruction as Hollywood portrayed, nor would their use have necessarily lead to every single weapon getting launched and detonated. Duck and cover was designed to protect you from flash burns on your neck from the thermal pulse and as Eastbay said, protect you from flying glass or other blast wave thrown debris. Duck and cover was never intended to deal with fallout or long term survival, it was designed to help people through the direct impact so they would still be able to get up and run to the fallout shelter after the blast wave had passed. Assuming that a war if it ever happens will be both sides slamming each other, then pausing to lick their wounds because both will have taken severe damage then the survivors are going to need fallout shelter for 14-28 days. Unless one or the other side is using Cobalt jacketed weapons the fallout decays to survival levels in 14 days and minor levels in 28 days, it doesn't go on for decades or centuries like Hollywood told you.

[Subjectivist]

Try this on for size, civil defense film for civilian education.

http://youtu.be/j4gfV6Q86KE

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'D')inopello you suffer from the hollywoodation of Nuclear weapons. They were never as capable of destruction as Hollywood portrayed, nor would their use have necessarily lead to every single weapon getting launched and detonated. Duck and cover was designed to protect you from flash burns on your neck from the thermal pulse and as Eastbay said, protect you from flying glass or other blast wave thrown debris. Duck and cover was never intended to deal with fallout or long term survival, it was designed to help people through the direct impact so they would still be able to get up and run to the fallout shelter after the blast wave had passed. Assuming that a war if it ever happens will be both sides slamming each other, then pausing to lick their wounds because both will have taken severe damage then the survivors are going to need fallout shelter for 14-28 days. Unless one or the other side is using Cobalt jacketed weapons the fallout decays to survival levels in 14 days and minor levels in 28 days, it doesn't go on for decades or centuries like Hollywood told you.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '
')You convinced me, it sounds lovely. I will start digging my hole in the ground this weekend. I'm about a mile from the US Capitol - so I guess I shouldn't be outside when the blast wave passes.

[Subjectivist]

Yuppies have gotten in on the act these days, they are converting old missile silo's into 14 story luxury condo apartments. You and five family members or close friends can own your own 3 bedroom 6 person luxury apartment for a small investment of just $3,000,000.00!

http://www.survivalcondo.com/?page_id=95

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LED Big Screen TV in every unit.

State-of-the-art Kitchen: Stainless steel kitchen appliances include refrigerator, dishwasher, dual-fuel (electric & propane) professional range, wall oven, professional ventilation hood. Granite or custom concrete counter-tops.

State-of-the-art energy efficient washer and dryer in each unit.

Built in recessed full spectrum LED lighting.

Kohler bath fixtures and jetted Jacuzzi tub in each master bath.
Digital HVAC controls.

State-of-the-Art Home Automation System with structured wiring throughout including closed circuit security system camera viewing, public address/intercom system, digital weather station access, smoke and carbon monoxide detectors, satellite TV feeds, public and private Internet access.

Outdoor “simulated view” window in each unit. Window simulates “Life-Like” outdoor views complete with varying light levels that reflect time of day, creating a normal living experience as if you were above ground.

Biometric Key locks (you won’t need to worry about losing a key).
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[vox_mundi]

It'd be a laugh-riot to see the expression on their face when they try to open those biometric locks after the EMP hits. Ditto, the electric range and refrigerate.

Somethings tellin' me the propane delivery guy won't be showing up either.

P.T. Barnum was right. [Url=http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/There's_a_sucker_born_every_minute]link[url]

[PrestonSturges]

Someone here last year was cleaning out and renovating a large underground rainwater cistern, and I'd rather have that so I could use it as a geothermal heat sink.