[SeaGypsy]

KJ, the variation between intelligence levels within a particular racial group is similarly wide as any other. There are Rhodes & Harvard graduates from every racial background. There are also very significant cultural & environmental variations on what defines intelligence. The usefulness of extremely honed bush survival skills has never been built into any IQ test, hence the Aboriginal & African bush peoples speciality is not counted as intelligence. This strikes me as an absurd anomaly in the entire procedure of defining intelligence by race.

[SeaGypsy]

Image of stupidity. From recall, Arabs are not exceptional in the racial intelligence profiling research, but without doubt they have the stupidest culture in the world.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', ',') Arabs .... without doubt they have the stupidest culture in the world.

[dinopello]

Almost half of US states allow unrestricted first cousin marriage. Including our biggest state of Alaska ! It ranges from outright legal to OK with some restrictions (e.g. beyond child bearing age) to a criminal offense in a few.

[SeaGypsy]

Yep was aware of this affect Planty, but thought the averages were not so different as to justify an argument that the retarded culture in these places had any basis in the low IQs of cousin f&@?ers.

[PrestonSturges]

The guy that went on a shooting spree in Austin last week belong to the group Phineas Priesthood who like to kill interracial couples. They are part of the pacific northwest white supremacist network responsible for bank robberies and various violent crimes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post ... ate-group/

[basil_hayden]

I think it was the ancient Greeks who characterized intelligence between gender in the following way, and it's probably the same for races - the smartest person in the world is a man, and so is the dumbest person.

Intelligence has nothing to do with the prejudgement for me, it's the different stereotypical responses arising from differences in cultural background. Sometimes those of Italian descent aren't corrupt and an Asian can actually drive correctly; these are pleasant surprises often few and far between.

[SeaGypsy]

Some Filipinos mean it when they say 'I love you'.
Some Americans favourite topic is no how great they are.
Some Australians read books, a few even write them.
Some Englishmen hate soccer, cricket & tea.
Some Indians can't speak English.
Some aboriginals have a job, some are even sober most of the time.
Some Japanese don't believe in Japanese supremacy.
Some Chinese are not communists.
Some Russians, well, like the aboriginals.

[PrestonSturges]

Heaven Is Where:
The French are the chefs
The Italians are the lovers
The British are the police
The Germans are the mechanics
And the Swiss make everything run on time

Hell is Where:
The British are the chefs
The Swiss are the lovers
The French are the mechanics
The Italians make everything run on time
And the Germans are the police

[SeaGypsy]

My heaven/
The Thais are the Chefs
The French are the lovers
The Rastafarians are the police
The Africans are the mechanics
The Filipinos make everything run on time

My hell
The French are the chefs
The English are the lovers
The Arabs are the police
The Australians are the mechanics
The Robots make everything run on time

[Ayoob]

I was a more ardent racist when I lived in the hood. The good news is that I managed to bounce, and I'm out of the hood. Probably for good. My town is white to an almost comical percentage, and the percentage of black people is less than 2%. I sometimes go weeks without seeing a black person in my town. When I do, I mentally check off a box that I played Where's Leroy (much like Where's Waldo, but lots more fun at museums and craft beer festivals).

Now I've calmed down a lot. I don't carry a gun anymore, I don't need to. There was a nice lady who worked the gun counter where I bought my Mosin who commented on my concealed carry permit. "Oh that's great, do you carry all the time?" Nope. She was so disappointed. I remember when I did though, and I did because the slums of Los Angeles are nothing like this place. This is pretty chill. I haven't physically stepped over somebody passed out on the sidewalk or in the doorway of a business since I got here. I have not lived in, nor have I seen, an apartment building with rolls of razor wire edging the roof and hanging down the corners of the building.

Nobody has bars on their windows here. Fucking NOBODY. Back when, I used to go check out an apartment and count buildings with bars on the ground floor windows and keep a separate count for bars on the 2nd floor windows. Then I'd drive until there were only bars on the first floor, then maybe 50/50 bars on the ground floor. Those neighborhoods were generally too expensive for me. Time to turn around and be realistic.

This fall semester is my last one in grad school for a medical thing. I don't want to be any more specific than that. I'm still curious about race and behavior, so every once in a while I go into research mode and search academic databases for articles that have something to do with race. There is an interesting line of research about biracial people and organ donation/rejection. It turns out it gets harder and harder to find a match for organ recipients the more multiracial they are. The best matches are brothers and sisters, and it gets worse from there out. Maybe you recall a story out of Southern California where a family found out that one of their daughters was going to need an organ replaced later in life. The parents decided to have another kid for spare parts. That stirred up a pot. Black people don't respond to high blood pressure medications the same way anybody else does, so calcium channel blockers are first-line treatment for them and everybody else starts on a diuretic, and then a beta blocker.

Olanzapine is a 2nd generation antipsychotic that has amazingly beneficial effects for people who have a certain genetic profile. This information comes from pgxlab.com, a company that analyzes genetic information for primary care providers. 3% of black people, 24% of white people, and 45% of asian people have the genetics to make the best use of this medication. I asked if they broke out their percentage of Han chinese people vs the general asian profile, and they do not. Their staff were a little uncomfortable that I even brought up the question, but Han chinese are apparently very different from the other chinese.

http://www.pgxlab.com/test-menu/sult4a1/

They don't break out the racial profiles on their website, but they do in the clinical literature. Ask for a packet on that test, they'll send one off for you.

White people fall all over themselves trying to "prove" that black people are just like white people, except that they are from certain areas. As though areas had some kind of magnetic properties or vortexes or something that made people act like fuckoffs. I once worked with the grandson of the first black man to buy into Inglewood. It had been (one of the four) Hollywood neighborhoods before there was a Hollywood. He was proud to have been part of dragging that neighborhood to its knees. One time I did the math about what was worse in terms of murder for black people, the KKK or Inglewood, CA. I checked my facts with the NAACP in Baltimore.

According to the home office of the NAACP in Baltimore, the total number of lynchings of black people in the United States counting both North and South, was 2,400. Give or take. Total lynchings by the KKK was about 3,600. One third of the KKK's lynchings were of non-black people. I almost said white, but there could have been a couple of token celestials or wetbacks in there, the NAACP is not interested in that information. So, since 1865, the KKK blatantly murdered 2,400 black people, and those events were nice date night material for white people from time to time. I have seen the photographs of smiling young white couples with strange fruit on the trees behind them. That was real! Let's not cover over the past. That was what happened.

How many black people were killed in Inglewood, CA in the last fifteen years? According to the LA Times, this single neighborhood out of 270 in the LA County area, is responsible for the murder of 250 black people, massively dominated by gunshot, since 2000. Inglewood is not the worst neighborhood in LA county, by the way. It's safer than 24% of neighborhoods. 1865 was 150 years ago when Baby New Year drops out the slot on Jan. 1, 2015. So, there have been ten 15 year periods since 1865. Ten times 250 is 2500, or pretty close to the total number of lynchings of black people in the entire 150 year history of the KKK.

Inglewood, CA is about as dangerous to black people as the KKK is. Was. I don't think there are any date-night KKK lynchings anymore. Been there, done that. It's over.

Holy Ghost, I had no idea there was a place with a murder rate this high. Whitman Park, NJ. What a shithole. http://www.theatlantic.com/national/arc ... ey/282286/

I remember when I had to do a certain number of community service hours to graduate from high school. After about thirty calls to chairities, I finally found somebody who would take me. It was a black day care in the hood. At the ripe old age of 17 I figured, how bad can it be? It's a DAY CARE for CHILDREN. This can't be that bad. Come on. I told my dad where I was going and his face turned (even) white(r). "No, you're not going there. No way. That's a dangerous part of the city." Yes I am, this is the only place that said yes, so I'm going to go do my hours and graduate. You got anything better lined up?

I went. I had no idea I was going to face a phalanx of non-day-care ghetto black kids waving baseball bats in the face of the kids I was supposed to play baseball with. I can't quote it anymore, it was too long ago and I don't remember. It was still total culture shock. If you ever felt bad about being picked last for a team, then suck it up. These kids were ready to go toe-to-toe over who batted first.

I dunno. Maybe my career driving an ambulance in the hood for years, or living in the barrio for DECADES, doesn't mean anything. Maybe demographics isn't destiny. Maybe the social justice warriors are right.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b6eCXjjukw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqziQX7eEv0

[SeaGypsy]

Wow Ayoob! Remember when we banged heads on this 5 years ago? Anyhow great spiel man & nice you are content.

[Quinny]

I lived in Hulme/Moss side when at Manchester University - supposed to be really rough and it was pretty grim in places. Most people near where I lived were of West Indian descent and in many of the local pubs I was quite often the sole white face but I never had any real hassle. The only time I got mugged was by a gang of young white lads in Kloisters in city centre. People are people.

[SeaGypsy]

I worked for several years in aboriginal communities in Australia, where I was one of a tiny minority of outsiders, most of who were Anglo. I never had a problem or threat from the locals, only problems were with other outsiders, mostly Anglos. In 2 years living in the Philippines, in a town with about 1/1000 white/ Filipino ratio, same thing, never a problem with locals, only with other foreigners, Anglo ones at that. The only person who ever went full on ballistic at me (not counting ex girlfriends & wife) was an Anglo wound up on amphetamine & alcohol, a random stranger. In years of travel around the world, the safest city I have spent time in is Singapore, which is also one of the most racially diverse cities in the world. This is why I have strong doubts about the inevitability of racial conflict narrative.

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'T')he suppressed research involving genetics and intelligence survived the peer review process, it did not survive the PC police.

[Quinny]

I hoped that this post was an ironic comment on the fact that individuals are inevitably racist because of their background. Unfortunately it seems to have degenerated into a eugenics/white supremacist thread. Although I've had some good holidays in the US and have many friends from there, I am so glad I don't have to live there. I know it's not all of you, but you folks have some real problems. It's no wonder so many of you need psychiatrists!

[Cid_Yama]

Since the 1600's in America, when landholders sought to drive a wedge between the white indentured servants and the black slaves, the US has used 'divide the lower classes' to great effect to prevent rebellion.

And from this thread it's clear that the working class whites are still too stupid to see their interests are more in common with other working class races than with the ruling class.

Prefering scraps from the table of the rich to a fair and equitable share.

I believe the correct term for that is collaborators. Like the Vichy swine in France, and the Ukrainians who joined the SS.

Perhaps Racism and Fascism somehow goes hand-in-hand, that the same type of person is attracted to both. They don't mind being slaves as long as they get to be the whip slave.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'T')he guy that went on a shooting spree in Austin last week belong to the group Phineas Priesthood who like to kill interracial couples. They are part of the pacific northwest white supremacist network responsible for bank robberies and various violent crimes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post ... ate-group/

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', 'I')s there such as thing as racial ambiguity ? People who have no idea what race they are ? (no fair saying human race). Or, does everyone have to belong to a race?

[KaiserJeep]

I am on vacation, and I have only a small tablet and a small keyboard to type on. But I want to point out the obvious, something that all of us knew and understood once, but have forgotten.

There is a real world out there, where people actually live. Then there is a virtual world, online, which in every particular is a distortion of the real world. The act of documenting, reporting, and recording the real world changes it. Then there are places in the virtual world where facts and information are deliberately altered, changed, and edited to comply with a government imposed policy.

Somebody, in fact a great many somebodies, decided that the general public could not handle the truth, and therefore that the scientific facts about race and intelligence - just one of the many things that were measured and found to differ from one race to another - were best witheld.

If you do not believe that this in fact happened, then make the usual search, and look for peer-reviewed published articles on the topics we have touched upon here. You will not find such material, and you will find a total lack of accessible information.

Because the real world and the virtual world are not at all the same places.