[vtsnowedin]

Oh I agree that Obama's statement was inadequate.
The administration and the media have known the truth of the matter for months now yet they persist in the fiction of the "unarmed teenaged boy" Instead of the full grown hoodlum caught leaving his latest crime scene.

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', 'S')uppose the question is why go for the gun first?

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', 'S')uppose the question is why go for the gun first?

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', 'S')uppose the question is why go for the gun first?

[KingM]

I'm confused as to why this was the place to make a stand against police brutality. The guy was killed in ambiguous circumstances after committing a strong arm robbery. Meanwhile, there was a black guy killed at Wal-Mart in September, while shopping for a BB gun and talking on the phone with one of his kids. It was all caught on video. The officers were not charged or disciplined in any way. Why isn't that the situation drawing protests and demands for justice?

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KingM', 'I')'m confused as to why this was the place to make a stand against police brutality. The guy was killed in ambiguous circumstances after committing a strong arm robbery. Meanwhile, there was a black guy killed at Wal-Mart in September, while shopping for a BB gun and talking on the phone with one of his kids. It was all caught on video. The officers were not charged or disciplined in any way. Why isn't that the situation drawing protests and demands for justice?

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', 'K')ingM, this was a poor choice of a place to make a stand, your right. I think this ends up hurting the overall cause of any future protest against police brutality.

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', 'K')ingM, this was a poor choice of a place to make a stand, your right. I think this ends up hurting the overall cause of any future protest against police brutality.

[Peak_Yeast]

I do not understand why they do not let this incident go to trial.

Would it not be better to do that in order to avoid this civil unrest - if all the facts come out and the officer (which seems likely) is acquitted then the unrest could be much less?

Just wondering...

[Plantagenet]

This incident isn't going to trial because the officer didn't commit a crime. Michael Brown attacked the officer when the officer tried to apprehend him for robbing the convenience store, and Brown was killed as he resisted arrest.

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Governor Jay Nixon (D) of Missouri says he will deploy several hundred National Guardsmen on tuesday night to prevent additional arson, looting and rioting such as occurred on monday night.

National guard will finally be deployed in Ferguson

The governor's response was very weak during the first days of riots and looting in Ferguson last summer, and again he refused to deploy the national guard on monday even though over a dozen businesses were burned and looted by the rioters and Ferguson's mayor asked him for help to stop the rioters.


Pants UP! Don't Loot!

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Peak_Yeast', 'I') do not understand why they do not let this incident go to trial.

Would it not be better to do that in order to avoid this civil unrest - if all the facts come out and the officer (which seems likely) is acquitted then the unrest could be much less?

Just wondering...

[jjhman]

This mirning I read the grand jury questioning of the police officer. I thought he was very credible on most counts and that his testimony seemed to conform very well to the physical evidence described by the prosector and most of what was bandied about by the media in the preceeding weeks.

What seems without doubt is that the kid was hugh and he and his buddy had just robbed a small merchant of some cigars. There is video evidence of that. The kid and his friend were not innocent victims. The were hoodlems. Black or white the kid was a punk.

Did he deserve to get shot for stealing cigars? I hope not. I certainly did worse things that steal cigars as a kid.

The next thing that seems pretty clear is that he beat up the cop pretty bad while the cop was in his own car. That makes him criminally aggressive and stupid. There are photos of the bruising and swelling on the cop's face and neck. EVeryone admits that the cop fired his weapon twice while in the car. No one in their right mind would do that unless they truly feared for their life. Just the thought of the noise level is terrifying.

What happened outside of the vehicle is not as clear to me but my view is at that point that poor cop was so freaked out its a wonder he could do anything.

Is there a prejudice in cops against black kids? I think there probably is. But it appears that this kid's parents did a pretty bad job of informing him of that prejudice and instilling behavior that would save his life.

You couldn't convince me that this kid didn't try to physically overcome this cop and, right or wrong, the outcome in that case is almost certain.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', 'I')f he is no loss to his community then why did the president of the United States send three white house officials to his funeral?

[Peak_Yeast]

Thanks for taking your time to answer me.

Meanwhile i have read the story as given by members on this site and compared to what several danish media are writing.

And the description of the incident is quite different from the version quoted here on this site.

The Danish media paints a quite different picture:
Two witnesses that are not involved in the case otherwise says that Brown was holding his hands in the air in surrender - and was then shot two times - which were the shots that killed him.

This is in my opinion cause to make a case. Is the version of his surrender not in the American media?

I wonder which story is the right one, but it is interesting that the stories are completely opposite.

And by the way: I do not feel much sympathy for Browns actions and if I were the shop owner and had the opportunity I would like to think I shot the guy in the head. Also it seems to me that his family is trying to exploit the situation.

[Sixstrings]

Remember how supposedly the family was telling everyone to stay peaceful? I guess they had a change of heart:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ichael Brown's Stepfather Urged Protesters To "Burn This Bitch Down" After Grand Jury Announcement


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/ferguson/burn-this-bitch-down-879056

[lys3rg0]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '
')
Meanwhile a 12 year old boy was shot dead in Cleveland this weekend for pulling a toy gun on the police while in a public playground. Yet outside of Ohio has anyone heard of it? I certainly did not see it on CNN or FOX. The media picks and chooses what stories to report depending on their bias, just like the rest of us.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Peak_Yeast', 'T')hanks for taking your time to answer me.

Meanwhile i have read the story as given by members on this site and compared to what several danish media are writing.

And the description of the incident is quite different from the version quoted here on this site.

The Danish media paints a quite different picture:
Two witnesses that are not involved in the case otherwise says that Brown was holding his hands in the air in surrender - and was then shot two times - which were the shots that killed him.

This is in my opinion cause to make a case. Is the version of his surrender not in the American media?

I wonder which story is the right one, but it is interesting that the stories are completely opposite.

And by the way: I do not feel much sympathy for Browns actions and if I were the shop owner and had the opportunity I would like to think I shot the guy in the head. Also it seems to me that his family is trying to exploit the situation.

[Satori]

is that even a real pic of Brown's step father?
all the pics I can find show him to be a big,burly guy with a full beard

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Peak_Yeast', 'M')eanwhile i have read the story as given by members on this site and compared to what several danish media are writing.

And the description of the incident is quite different from the version quoted here on this site.

The Danish media paints a quite different picture:
Two witnesses that are not involved in the case otherwise says that Brown was holding his hands in the air in surrender - and was then shot two times - which were the shots that killed him.

This is in my opinion cause to make a case. Is the version of his surrender not in the American media?

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Satori', 'i')s that even a real pic of Brown's step father?
all the pics I can find show him to be a big,burly guy with a full beard