[dashster]

If it weren't bad enough to have Peak Oil looming combined with eternal population growth, coal and natural gas could peak very close to the same time. The Energy Watch Group (which was early on Peak Oil thanks to tar sands/fracking/NGLs) predicts coal will peak in 2025 and natural gas in 2020.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dashster', 'I')f it weren't bad enough to have Peak Oil looming combined with eternal population growth, coal and natural gas could peak very close to the same time. The Energy Watch Group (which was early on Peak Oil thanks to tar sands/fracking/NGLs) predicts coal will peak in 2025 and natural gas in 2020.

[dashster]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dashster', 'I')f it weren't bad enough to have Peak Oil looming combined with eternal population growth, coal and natural gas could peak very close to the same time. The Energy Watch Group (which was early on Peak Oil thanks to tar sands/fracking/NGLs) predicts coal will peak in 2025 and natural gas in 2020.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dashster', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dashster', 'I')f it weren't bad enough to have Peak Oil looming combined with eternal population growth, coal and natural gas could peak very close to the same time. The Energy Watch Group (which was early on Peak Oil thanks to tar sands/fracking/NGLs) predicts coal will peak in 2025 and natural gas in 2020.

[Islander]

Don't worry, scientists will invent a way to harvest renewable energy from the dreams of hippies.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Islander', 'D')on't worry, scientists will invent a way to harvest renewable energy from the dreams of hippies.

[dashster]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dashster', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dashster', 'I')f it weren't bad enough to have Peak Oil looming combined with eternal population growth, coal and natural gas could peak very close to the same time. The Energy Watch Group (which was early on Peak Oil thanks to tar sands/fracking/NGLs) predicts coal will peak in 2025 and natural gas in 2020.

[DesuMaiden]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dashster', 'I')f it weren't bad enough to have Peak Oil looming combined with eternal population growth, coal and natural gas could peak very close to the same time. The Energy Watch Group (which was early on Peak Oil thanks to tar sands/fracking/NGLs) predicts coal will peak in 2025 and natural gas in 2020.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dashster', '
')When you say die-off, are you referring to death by starvation exclusively?

[dashster]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dashster', '
')When you say die-off, are you referring to death by starvation exclusively?

[DesuMaiden]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dashster', 'I')f it weren't bad enough to have Peak Oil looming combined with eternal population growth, coal and natural gas could peak very close to the same time. The Energy Watch Group (which was early on Peak Oil thanks to tar sands/fracking/NGLs) predicts coal will peak in 2025 and natural gas in 2020.

[dashster]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DesuMaiden', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dashster', 'I')f it weren't bad enough to have Peak Oil looming combined with eternal population growth, coal and natural gas could peak very close to the same time. The Energy Watch Group (which was early on Peak Oil thanks to tar sands/fracking/NGLs) predicts coal will peak in 2025 and natural gas in 2020.

[dashster]

Obama has said that we have "nearly 100 years" of natural gas. And in fact, the EIA asks "How much natural gas does the United States have and how long will it last?" and answers:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he U.S. Energy Information Administration estimates that there are about 2,214 trillion cubic feet (Tcf) of natural gas that is technically recoverable in the United States. At the rate of U.S. natural gas consumption in 2013 of 26 Tcf per year, the United States has enough natural gas to last about 85 years.

Technically recoverable reserves consist of proved reserves and unproved resources. Proved reserves of crude oil and natural gas are the estimated volumes expected to be produced, with reasonable certainty, under existing economic and operating conditions. Unproved resources are additional volumes estimated to be technically recoverable without consideration of economics or operating conditions, based on the application of current technology.

[dashster]

There is another group that sees Peak Coal in the US in the near future. They argue that:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '�')��Most U.S. coal is buried too deeply to be mined at a profit and should not be categorized as reserves, but rather as ‘resources.’”

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dashster', 'T')here is another group that sees Peak Coal in the US in the near future. They argue that:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '�')��Most U.S. coal is buried too deeply to be mined at a profit and should not be categorized as reserves, but rather as ‘resources.’”

[KaiserJeep]

I noticed nobody mentioned peak uranium. The USA has large reserves of uranium, enough to power the grid for decades - make that centuries if we utilize nuclear fuel reprocessing and breeder reactors.

By the actual numbers we hit peak uranium in 1980. But those numbers cannot be trusted, because demand for uranium was squelched by anti-nuclear extremists.

I know that I'm never going to convince many of you that nuclear energy is safe, available, and relatively carbon-free, only using some liquid fuels in mining and some electric grid power in ore processing and refining.

But for sake of completeness, those are the facts.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'I') noticed nobody mentioned peak uranium. The USA has large reserves of uranium, enough to power the grid for decades - make that centuries if we utilize nuclear fuel reprocessing and breeder reactors.

By the actual numbers we hit peak uranium in 1980. But those numbers cannot be trusted, because demand for uranium was squelched by anti-nuclear extremists.

I know that I'm never going to convince many of you that nuclear energy is safe, available, and relatively carbon-free, only using some liquid fuels in mining and some electric grid power in ore processing and refining.

But for sake of completeness, those are the facts.

[Tikib]

Fission just doesn't have a high enough eroei and reprocessing barely breaks even sadly.

[PieceOfMine]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Islander', 'D')on't worry, scientists will invent a way to harvest renewable energy from the dreams of hippies.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PieceOfMine', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Islander', 'D')on't worry, scientists will invent a way to harvest renewable energy from the dreams of hippies.