$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BobInget', 'I')'ve only been in Nicaragua a few weeks, half the time, goofing off on the beach. From a tiny sample of Nica's interviewed, most folks here seem
in favor of the canal project. Officials claim 87% approval.
The problem, like with Keystone XL, no one is asking poor substance farmers whose land will be 'taken'.
These folks, I'm told by folks on the Left (Sandinistas) and Right, (former contras) are prepared to fight to hold on to their lands.
Considerable environmental damage will undoubtedly occur to Lake Nicaragua, the largest fresh water containment in Central America.
Salt water intrusion along the canal's path ruins farmland.
I hope financing falls through. If not, there will be yet another civil war.
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Re: Mega-projects and Peak Oil: Nicaragua Canal
by Tanada » Fri 21 Nov 2014, 14:36:43
Unless they are building it as a sea level canal saltwater intrusion should not be much of a problem. The canal is supposed to be 90 feet deep to handle the largest freighters. Lake Nicaragua surface is 107 feet above sea level and its deepest point is 22 feet above sea level. If the Canal is sea level all the way Lake Nicaragua will drain completely into the sea. I suspect they will have lock structures on both ends and the canal will be filled with fresh water from the lake and rivers that feed into the lake. Based on the geography probably three locks on each end with the Pacific locks all close together and the Atlantic locks at the lake shore, sea shore and somewhere in the middle.
With modern equipment making a sea level canal would not be all that difficult, but it would drain a lot of fresh water sources into the sea. As is the canal route across the lake bottom will require a lot of dredging to make the whole distance 90 feet deep. I wonder what they plan to do with all that rich silt they will have to be dredging from the lake?
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Re: Mega-projects and Peak Oil: Nicaragua Canal
by Synapsid » Fri 21 Nov 2014, 16:44:24
Tanada,
They'd need locks anyway for at least two reasons: 1) at the Panama Canal as an example, the Pacific averages higher than the Atlantic so picture to yourself the resulting current without locks: 2) there are sea snakes along the Pacific coast and none in the Caribbean with its tourist industry, and sea snakes are wonderfully venomous. Caribbean fishermen and tourists would learn to adjust but the, er, cost would be high.
They'd need locks anyway for at least two reasons: 1) at the Panama Canal as an example, the Pacific averages higher than the Atlantic so picture to yourself the resulting current without locks: 2) there are sea snakes along the Pacific coast and none in the Caribbean with its tourist industry, and sea snakes are wonderfully venomous. Caribbean fishermen and tourists would learn to adjust but the, er, cost would be high.
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Re: Mega-projects and Peak Oil: Nicaragua Canal
by GHung » Fri 21 Nov 2014, 16:50:16
Tanada: "I wonder what they plan to do with all that rich silt they will have to be dredging from the lake?"
Depends on what it's 'rich' in. Seems they've been using Lake Nicaragua as a cesspool for decades, even though it's Nicaragua's primary source for fresh water:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n the past 37 years, considerable concern has been expressed about the ecological condition of Lake Nicaragua. In 1981 the Nicaraguan Institute of Natural Resources and the Environment (IRENA) conducted an environmental assessment study and found that half of the water sources sampled were seriously polluted by sewage. It was found that 32 tons (70,000 pounds) of raw sewage were being released into Lake Nicaragua daily. Industry located along the lake's shore had been dumping effluent for an extended period of time. Pennwalt Chemical Corporation [AKA: Total S.A. - petrochemicals] was found to be the worst polluter. Nicaragua's economic situation has hampered the building of treatment facilities nationwide (see: Water supply and sanitation in Nicaragua).
Depends on what it's 'rich' in. Seems they've been using Lake Nicaragua as a cesspool for decades, even though it's Nicaragua's primary source for fresh water:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n the past 37 years, considerable concern has been expressed about the ecological condition of Lake Nicaragua. In 1981 the Nicaraguan Institute of Natural Resources and the Environment (IRENA) conducted an environmental assessment study and found that half of the water sources sampled were seriously polluted by sewage. It was found that 32 tons (70,000 pounds) of raw sewage were being released into Lake Nicaragua daily. Industry located along the lake's shore had been dumping effluent for an extended period of time. Pennwalt Chemical Corporation [AKA: Total S.A. - petrochemicals] was found to be the worst polluter. Nicaragua's economic situation has hampered the building of treatment facilities nationwide (see: Water supply and sanitation in Nicaragua).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Nica ... ke_ecology
Bringing thousands of ships through can't help. Besides pollutants, there's the risk of invasive species (Zebra mussels, etc). They already have a problem with talapia aquaculture fouling things up and displacing native species.
And then there's the ongoing drought. How much water will the canal system consume? Seems like just another case of natural systems being stressed to their collapsing point; not that that matters to people who are all in for globalism. Besides, what's a little e. coli and cholera when there's billions to be made, eh?
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Re: Mega-projects and Peak Oil: Nicaragua Canal
by GHung » Fri 21 Nov 2014, 17:09:30
Synapsid - ah, sea snakes... I'm surprised they aren't on the Atlantic side already. Mean little bastards. When I was a skimmer (surface sailor), we used to make slingshots and shoot at them from the fantail over in the Red Sea and Gulfs. I once asked the ship's Corpsman what he had for sea snake bites and all he said was; "Morphine. Don't get bit."
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Re: Mega-projects and Peak Oil: Nicaragua Canal
by Tanada » Fri 21 Nov 2014, 17:51:38
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Synapsid', 'T')anada,
They'd need locks anyway for at least two reasons: 1) at the Panama Canal as an example, the Pacific averages higher than the Atlantic so picture to yourself the resulting current without locks: 2) there are sea snakes along the Pacific coast and none in the Caribbean with its tourist industry, and sea snakes are wonderfully venomous. Caribbean fishermen and tourists would learn to adjust but the, er, cost would be high.
They'd need locks anyway for at least two reasons: 1) at the Panama Canal as an example, the Pacific averages higher than the Atlantic so picture to yourself the resulting current without locks: 2) there are sea snakes along the Pacific coast and none in the Caribbean with its tourist industry, and sea snakes are wonderfully venomous. Caribbean fishermen and tourists would learn to adjust but the, er, cost would be high.
The height difference is only significant at high and low tide. Many people are unaware that the Red Sea is about a meter higher than the Mediterranean Sea but neither has much in the way of tidal effects. As a result at high tide in the Mediterranean the current flows south through the Suez canal while at all other times it flows north. Red Sea life forms have long since invaded the western end of the Mediterranean as a result.
Anyone know what the tide peaks ay along the Nicaraguan coast?
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