[Rod_Cloutier]

I been really looking for ways to grow as a person, a spiritual awakening, to free myself from the traps of Western culture and materialism. On chance, I happened upon review of people who travel to Peru, Brazil, or Columbia to have the Ayahausca experience. This is a psychedelic herbal tea which has been taken in the Amazon for thousands of years. Some people pay as much as ten thousand dollars to experience and partake in this pilgrimage.

Unfortunately, the teas are illegal throughout much of the world. (Who makes these evil bans and prohibitions) I found that I can order the herbal plants online however, and there are numerous online sources that can be consulted on how to prepare and brew the teas, minus the experienced shaman being present.

I took Ayahausca yesterday. It was beyond my wildest dreams and expectations. Pure joy, exploding rainbows of love and joy. The joy was so intense it felt like a thousand orgasms per second for a hour, then it diminished very gradually over a period of about six hours. It made me feel alive again. The experience was the best thing that has ever happened to me since childhood. Anyone looking for serious personal spiritual growth- this is highly recommended!

A way to escape the materialism trap in the western world that is ruining our civilization, and which is destroying the natural world. An example as explored in this documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSisvA- ... ilpage#t=2

Here is a few pictures I found the morning after on the internet of exploding rainbows. (These do not capture the joy and rapture of the experience however)

[Ibon]

After more than 40 years hiatus psychologists are once again using psychotropics for treating patients with specific psychological disorders, specifcally PTSD. Plans for using this for treating alcohol and tobacco addiction.

http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2014- ... -disorders

Under proper supervision, either with a western trained psychologist or authentic shaman, there is great potential here for folks to break destructive mental patterns.

Since consumption is a form of addiction I think ayahuasca could play an important role.

Having also experienced this wonderful vine I can only concur with Repent! The experience can be blissful as Repent reports but it can also be brutally confrontive and you do need the support of someone experienced if the vine chooses to take you down a dark path.

[Rod_Cloutier]

It is already being used as medical therapy in Vancouver for the treatment of drug addictions:

http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/Shows/Th ... 166412138/

[SeaGypsy]

The Ozzie versions of Ayahuasca are among the worlds best sources of DMT, now also classed in the same stream as coke and smack! absurd. Anyhow, it has changed my life. Make sure you have good guidance & thoroughly research the juice first, it is no doubt the most profound substance I have tried.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Repent', 'I') took Ayahausca yesterday. It was beyond my wildest dreams and expectations. Pure joy, exploding rainbows of love and joy. The joy was so intense it felt like a thousand orgasms per second for a hour, then it diminished very gradually over a period of about six hours. It made me feel alive again. The experience was the best thing that has ever happened to me since childhood. Anyone looking for serious personal spiritual growth- this is highly recommended!

[Plantagenet]

Loved your story about tripping out in Amsterdam, 6. That sounds fantastic. I was in Amsterdam last December, and the trippiest thing I did was take the train out to Haarlem and go to the Teylers Eerste of Godgeleerd Genootschap---the oldest museum in the Netherlands. They were putting a special exhibition with all of Rembrandts etchings. Each attendee got a little magnifying glass, so we could get right up to the etchings and see all the marvelous little swirls and burls in the prints. Rembrandt can be trippy in his own way.



Less scientific work has been done on ayahausca than other psychedelics, but an MRI study shows that ayahausca activates the optic nerve system in addition to neural activity.

MRI study shows ayahausca hallucinations involve optic nerve bundle

Thats probably why the colors people see appear so intense, as Repent experienced.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '.') I suggest Kincaid.

[Rod_Cloutier]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')s it *really* wise for folks to order this tea and brew it up and just drink it? I'm glad you had a great and safe experience Repent, but is that really safe? I'd be scared out of my wits to just brew some mail order tea from the Amazon jungle and take a swig

[SeaGypsy]

Pure DMT is available with a wide variety of sub sets of psycho actives, with none, or almost none of the above described side effects. MAO inhibitors to prolong the experience, or a 15 minute time warping near death experience from the comfort of ones favourite spot on the Earth. The business mans lunch.

We all have this substance in our blood at all times, but under ordinary circumstances, only birth & fully serious near death experience cause the mass release of this chemical from the pituitary gland. We are when dosing this substance, inhaling the very fumes of birth & death.

6, don't worry, plenty of boring people have tried Ayahuasca, (lol!)

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Repent', 'I')t was scary. It took me six months to work up the nerve to try it, but wow.

[SeaGypsy]

Terrence Mckennar is my Shaman

[Rod_Cloutier]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t's none of my business, but do you plan to have someone around if you take it again

[Rod_Cloutier]

I took Ayahausca again, and I experienced even deeper revelations. I experienced Ego death, where my human ego fell to the side with a shrug and a hmpth...

I saw the world from a higher vantage point, from a higher dimension of being. From there I could see that as a species and as a civilization we are in the very late autumn of our time here. That we were like trees and our leaves were showing their brightest colors of the season, before they will fall off and die. I felt sadness because we are killing our planet and destroying the habitat that supports life. I could see the withering of the stalk and of the vine that supports our civilization, knowing that this is part of the divine process; decline and death are natural. I saw our species was in overshoot and the consequences of overshoot will start to arrive within the next year. That this is the last year of business as usual, and then there will be profound changes.

I saw the world that will emerge after civilization dies, where if the survivors of the collapse continue to destroy the Earth, that life on this planet will end. Conversely, the survivors could choose another path and experience a new spring and lease on life, to let nature recover and live within that nature rather than trying to dominate over it.

I saw the upcoming death of my wife, who will pass on in the near future, it was hard to see the obvious. Even with the obvious staring me straight in the face. I then saw the death of my own body in about 13 years, a combination of sleep apnea and liver failure. The vision of the death of my spouse was hard to see, but the acceptance of the eventual death of my own physical form seemed easier to take.

All the while I felt intense joy at the process, the divine mechanisms were doing exactly as they were intended, nothing was broken everything that occurs happens naturally.

How to spend the last year of business as usual, I think I will be seeing my wife as the special gift that she is, and shower her with love and attention for the time we have left together.

The end is scarier than the beginning.

[Rod_Cloutier]

I was wrong, Ayahausca is somewhat addictive. I took it again last night, this time the experience was different yet again.

I was led through a dark place of demons and devils, I felt absolute fear, despair, and sadness. I felt sadness to the Nth power, and then after suffering with this for what seemed like eternity, I decided that sadness no longer served any purpose for me and I let it go. Letting it go was like a cosmic orgasm of release.

I then felt ultimate despair, loneliness and isolation to the Nth power, it seemed like an eternity of my own personal hell. If I have a personal hell, this was it. Then I decided that despair and loneliness and isolation no longer served my purposes and I let them go, and again it was like a cosmic orgasm of releasing it.

I cried to myself, to god, for every pain, loss and misfortune I had ever experienced, and then fell them all at once to the Nth power, again a personal hell without escape. At some point I decided that pain, loss, and misfortune no longer served my purposes and I let them all go, I forgave all my enemies and adversaries, and again it was a cosmic orgasm of the release of the Nth power of all of this negativity.

I then experienced unending spiritual orgasm until the effect of the medicine wore off. I woke up this morning grappling with the significance of releasing negativity- was the whole point of all of the suffering in life just to have cosmic orgasms? Is that the whole point of it all? All of that pain, hurt, etc, just for an orgasm?

Life is a stranger thing than I thought was possible.

[Ibon]

Each time is unique. Each time different. One time bliss, one time a deep darkness. The crazy thing is that it doesn't really depend on your conscious state of mind when you start the journey. The medicine decides where to take you. This is only for the brave of heart. I am at the moment debating a second experience with Ayahuasca. That it is deeply therapeutic there is little doubt as Repent shares here.

[Sixstrings]

There's an hour-long Ayahuasca documentary on rotation on CNN now.

Saw it the other night, thought of this thread.

They focus on a lot of Iraq war vets, going to Peru. And then there was a female veteran who was the victim of sexual assault. Seems to be an effective treatment for PTSD.

There are negative sides to it too though, and some ayahuasca deaths, most especially if someone is on a MAOI inhibitor anti-depressant (or do I have that reversed, and the anyhuasca is the MAOI inhibitor).

Basically you shouldn't be on any kind of drugs like that at all, going into it, or any recreational drugs in your system.

In the documentary, there's an American down in Peru they call "the gringo shaman." And a lot of westerners (peru is the west too but you know what I mean) are running ayahuasca camps.

I'm not poo-pooing this -- just be careful, is all!

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Repent', 'I') then experienced unending spiritual orgasm until the effect of the medicine wore off. I woke up this morning grappling with the significance of releasing negativity- was the whole point of all of the suffering in life just to have cosmic orgasms? Is that the whole point of it all? All of that pain, hurt, etc, just for an orgasm?

Life is a stranger thing than I thought was possible.

[Rod_Cloutier]

There are so many sources of credible people who have tried Ayahausca, all of them are positive. Here is a TED presentation of one of the better ones:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... LTocRM#t=1