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Postby FoxV » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 14:13:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zentric', 'S')o I'm waiting before I choose a side.

how many strip malls are being built?
how many intra-urban railway systems are being built?

Don't wait till your backward is the site of the next walmart before you decide.
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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 14:27:25

Yeah, all the lines are being crossed and one can't tell what's what. Its enough to test one's 'mental clarity.'
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Postby DriveElectric » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 14:33:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'Y')eah, all the lines are being crossed and one can't tell what's what. Its enough to test one's 'mental clarity.'


Let me help you out with the "clarity" thing.

VOTE REPUBLICAN

We need more supreme court judges like the ones who voted against this property grab by government. Thomas (Bush 1), Scalia (Reagan), O'Conner (Reagan) and Rehnquist (Nixon).

Our only hope is that a few of the liberal judges (John Paul Stevens (Lyndon Johnson)) retire while George W Bush is still in office so that we can get more good appointments to the Supreme Court.
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Postby DriveElectric » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 14:39:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zentric', 'W')ith the "good justices" tending to vote for the measure, and the "evil justices" voting against it, I'm not quite sure what to make of this.


You are on the wrong side. You thought you were on the "good" side (the blue pill). But in reality, the "good" side was with GWB (the red pill).
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Postby UncoveringTruths » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 14:51:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'V')OTE REPUBLICAN


Bush while he was Texas Governor voted for these cronies CAI. They believe that every neighborhood should have a Homeowners Association with Non-Judicial foreclosure powers. Yeah right!

Go here to read more about the Autrocities. A family in CA lost there $200,000+ home for not paying assesments amounting to $120.
American Homeowners Resource Center

Governor George W. Bush opened the door to a storm of home foreclosures in Texas by association lawyers

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n Texas, when George Bush was governor, he passed HB2152 . The bill passed by a voice vote in the waning seconds of a legislative session and allowed non-judicial foreclosure in homeowner associations. Foreclosures mushroomed into the thousands as a result. CAI lawyer, Michael Gainer, wrote the bill. William Gammon, another CAI lobbyist and well known to lawmakers and judges, has filed 1562 foreclosures through 2001.


Enronitis and Homeowner Associations
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Postby DriveElectric » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 14:58:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('UncoveringTruths', '
')Go here to read more about the Autrocities. A family in CA lost there $200,000+ home for not paying assesments amounting to $120.


There is more to that type of story than meets the eye. Nobody would refuse to pay $120 and risk losing their $200,000 home without a reason. If they had any equity in the home or any desire to keep the home, it would have been dealt with. The story just smells funny.
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Postby Zentric » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 15:02:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DriveElectric', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zentric', 'W')ith the "good justices" tending to vote for the measure, and the "evil justices" voting against it, I'm not quite sure what to make of this.


You are on the wrong side. You thought you were on the "good" side (the blue pill). But in reality, the "good" side was with GWB (the red pill).


Hardly. It's all too clear how GWB & Co. represent all that's evil in humanity (you need look no further than the seven vices on this - where "lust" to them is more the metaphorical kind of fucking - you know, like what Tom DeLay does.) On Democrats - my general take is that they are either worthless or try to do whatever good they can inside an obviously horribly corrupt system.

By the way, you should take a purple pill, because something's clearly eating at your insides. :razz:
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Postby DriveElectric » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 15:08:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kochevnik', '
')You're making a LOT of assumptions. Like for example, that I would like to be a 'leader', or even that I consider 'leaders' necessary.


That is all I needed to know about you. You are willing to bitch and moan about what other people are doing, but you have no interest in either fighting it or even supporting those who would lead the battle.

If you are not willing to vote or doing anything constructive, then you really have no business whining about things after the fact.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kochevnik', '
')I post these things not in an attempt to rally others to stop them, or to mitigate their consequences, but in an effort to enlighten those who will listen as to the importance of paying attention to the incremental degradation of the system that surrounds us.


That is what I though. You are only willing to sit on your supersized butt, point out everything you hate, but not actually do a single thing. And you think this is enlightening? It sounds more like whining to me.
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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 15:10:19

Few of our 'right-wingers' inspire much confidence. Few of our 'left-wingers' inspire much confidence. Republicans are indifferent to the influx of illegal immigrant workers and they are bankrupting the country with huge new entitlements. So-called 'democrat' appointed judges are siding with crooked developers and venal city officials to kick people out of their homes so private developer big shots can get their land. These are extremely weird times and for someone to say 'vote republican' and then tell somebody to go kill themselves just shows how weird they are. The confusion is rampant. I was just reading how the US is pissed off at Isreal for selling miltary stuff to China. Wait, I thought the neocons were running the old-line conservatives out of Washington and the neocons are budies with Israel. Helter skelter and nothing makes any sense!
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Postby DriveElectric » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 15:10:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zentric', '
')On Democrats - my general take is that they are either worthless or try to do whatever good they can inside an obviously horribly corrupt system.


The first one is correct. Democrats are worthless.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zentric', '
')By the way, you should take a purple pill, because something's clearly eating at your insides. :razz:


acid reflux disease? Not me. :-)
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Postby UncoveringTruths » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 15:13:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he story just smells funny.


It is fishy the way the attorneys manipulate the penalties and mushroom the original estimates.

Oh by the way I fought an association that was trying to take my property. 2 years of BS! I won!

Resident Loses House to Homeowners Association
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')veryone knows that failure to pay a mortgage or property taxes can result in the loss of a house. It was another sort of fee, however, that cost a Calaveras County man his home.

After retiring from Pacific Gas and Electric, Tom Radcliff paid cash for three acres in the foothills around Lake Tulloch in Calaveras County. He built a home there, and felt he was secure for the rest of his days. That didn't turn out to be the case, because Radcliff's home was recently sold at auction and the elderly man was told to move out.

Property owners in the Lake Tulloch development pay dues of $10 a month to a homeowner's association for upkeep of the roads and a park. That's $120 a year. Radcliff fell behind on a year's worth of dues, so the association auctioned off his property.

"In January he got a letter," said office manager Linda Hoopiiaina, who insists she did everything by the book. "He got another one in April: 'This account is past due.'"

Radcliff said he was busy and simply overlooked the homeowner's association dues. Now he can't believe he lost his dream home over a $120 payment. "It slipped through the cracks is all I can tell you," he said.

Although the property was recently appraised for $280,000, a Bay Area man bought the house and three acres at an auction last month for $70,000.


Here's one
61 Year Old, Disabled Man Threatened with Being Made Homeless
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ometimes, a name is ironically inappropriate.

Willard Harrington lives in Paradise - at least for the moment.

61 years old, disabled and living alone, Willard has an extremely limited capacity to read and comprehend written materials due to a head injury sustained many years ago. His sole income and source of support is a monthly Social Security Disability check of $824.20.

In December 1987, he purchased a home with money from his parents from Charles and Rosemary Hanks for $24,250. He has made his regular monthly mortgage payments to them during the intervening 17 years.

In July 2003, he did not pay his annual $123 assessment to his homeowner association, Paradise Pines, because he said that he did not know about it. He has told the association that he has difficulty reading.

Nobody in his association went down and knocked on his door and reminded him. Instead, the association employed Allied Trustee Services to foreclose on his home. On June 23, 2004, at One Court Street, Oroville, the association purchased his home for $1,796.95. The home was worth between $50,000 to $70,000. There was only $8,900 left on the mortgage.
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Postby DriveElectric » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 15:24:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('UncoveringTruths', '
')It is fishy the way the attorneys manipulate the penalties and mushroom the original estimates.


True enough. Attorneys are absolute scum and ought to be nailed every change you can.

Yet another reason to vote against Democrats, who are owned 100% by the trial lawyers.
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Postby UncoveringTruths » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 15:30:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')et another reason to vote against Democrats, who are owned 100% by the trial lawyers.


no no no.. Vote for independents who are not owned, obviously you missed my point. Bush screwed Texans! 8O

Democrats/Republicans are the enemy because the only way they get into office is by smoozing with corporate America.

After $18,000 of legal bills I should know.
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Postby shakespear1 » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 15:42:40

For those that believe that our exchanges here are a waist of time I say NONSENSE. I happen to learn a lot on PO. OK, there are discussions that are not about PO but so what. They are things that I would have not know about.

However the kicker is that I share my discoveries here with others.

And thus I put to work the famous effect 'six degrees of separation' . So I believe. :)
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Postby BabyPeanut » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 16:08:53

I appended "Your Land Belongs To The State" to the title of this thread in an effort to make it describe what was being talked about.

The wording of "Your Land Belongs To The State" is designed to mimick the Jack Dangers/Meat Beat Manifest song title "Your Mind Belongs To the State" which was designed to mimick the group "Consolidated"'s "Your Body Belongs To The State" song title.
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Postby k_semler » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 17:01:46

WHY IS THIS NOT BEING COVERED ON THE RADIO??? :x :-x
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Epitaph: "The Experiment Is Over."

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Postby I_Like_Plants » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 17:48:31

This harks back to the mid-90s when the IRS, ATF, etc were raiding people and stomping their cats to death, tying up old people, shooting mothers with babies in their arms, etc. And the response by the populace was characters like Tim McVeigh, Eric Rudolph, etc., and you know what? They were effective. People forget the government terrorism that brought about counterattacks by members of the populace, and apparently the government has also. They'll have to learn all over again.
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Postby I_Like_Plants » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 17:52:55

Geeez WTF???

I was listening to the radio on this "eminenent domain for wal-mart" decision by the supreme court and put in my bit about that, and then started reading the threads, you're all talking about suicide??? What the hell??

We should be discussing how the US gov't may be committing suicide with a stupid move like this, you think all the returning troops from the Middle East are going to be happy when they come home and their family's house has been taken to build a parking lot?

Remember McVeigh was a gulf war vet and by all accounts, a very completent soldier.

You guys stop talking about suicide right now, and get back on subject, please.
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Postby highlander » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 18:05:41

I just checked out a parallel thread on ATS. Folks are getting fired up about this. Are there any peakers in the general area where these houses are to be razed? Maybe a little civil disobedience is in order :-x
As this is a supreme court ruling, there is no legal remedy left. Since this is an immoral act, the law of the land no longer has authority IMO.
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