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Re: Global Warming and the "Crisis of Credibility"

Unread postby Deputy Barnes » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 14:47:09

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/007071833 ... 17207?vs=1

Maybe if you read that very book you would not be do confused about this matter.

Or you could brush up on the latest genetic research:

http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInfor ... ElYtEko7cc

Scientific evidence refuting the theory of modern humanity’s African genesis is common knowledge among those familiar with the most recent scientific papers on the human Genome, Mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosomes. Regrettably, within mainstream press and academia circles, there seems to be a conspicuous – and dare we say it – deliberate vacuum when it comes to reporting news of these recent studies and their obvious implications.

Australian historian Greg Jefferys explains that, “The whole ‘Out of Africa’ myth has its roots in the mainstream academic campaign in the 1990′s to remove the concept of Race. When I did my degree they all spent a lot of time on the ‘Out of Africa’ thing but it’s been completely disproved by genetics. Mainstream still hold on to it.”

Yes, some are motivated by a desire to “remove the concept of Race,” but others (who prefer to divide us) use the “myth” to help promote Afrocentrism, as illustrated by a book written by Professor Mary Lefkowitz and reviewed by Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.:

“Not Out of Africa” [How Afrocentrism Became an Excuse to Teach Myth as History] has sparked widespread debate over the teaching of revisionist history in schools and colleges. Was Socrates black? Did Aristotle steal his ideas from the library in Alexandria? Do we owe the underlying tenets of our democratic civilization to the Africans? Mary Lefkowitz explains why politically motivated histories of the ancient world are being written and shows how Afrocentrist claims blatantly contradict the historical evidence. “Not Out of Africa” is an important book that protects and argues for the necessity of historical truths and standards in cultural education.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Deputy Barnes', 'T')he oldest remains with Neanderthal attributes are found in Greece at Petralona, and are 700,000 years old with no African affinities whatsoever. Neanderthals evolved out of Eurasian protohumans like homo georgicus, older than any African subhuman. They later evolved or mutated in to Upper Paleolithic man, and there is evidence of this continuity throughout the fossil record. Upper Paleolithic man, if not entirely Neanderthal, genetically speaking, surely was 75% Neanderthal, at the very least. Out of Africa is a religion just like global warming, only someone who doesn't investigate carefully would believe in it. Those and people who just lie to themselves and others, consciously or not.
Your "consensus view" is totally different from what I read about current research in the field. You are welcome to your beliefs, but I hope you don't expect to be taken seriously, unless you can back them up.

Do you have beliefs about cosmology, quantum theory and relativity?
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Re: Global Warming and the "Crisis of Credibility"

Unread postby Deputy Barnes » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 15:55:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Deputy Barnes', 'h')ttp://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0070718334/184-9467163-8717207?vs=1

Maybe if you read that very book you would not be do confused about this matter.

Your link has problems. Is it a special neanderthal browser? Does the neanderthal have different visual perceptions?


The title of the book is "human evolution" and written by Professor Milford Wilpoff. It gives a fantastic overview of the middle to upper paleolithic transition in Europe, whereby Neanderthals evolve in to anatomically modern humans.

At the following links you should see a Neanderthal skull from France, 36,000 years old:

http://donsmaps.com/images31/img_7410st ... tte2sm.jpg


http://donsmaps.com/images31/img_7439st ... ettesm.jpg

It is virtually identical to this skull from Stonehenge, dated to the bronze age;

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ ... 4e5e40.jpg

You can see that the Neanderthals really do persist in Europe; theh never went extinct or some such bullshit. Europeans are far removed from say, modern Africans, who do not have any Neanderthal genes:

http://www.boneclones.com/images/bc-203b-lg.jpg
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Re: Global Warming and the "Crisis of Credibility"

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 17:30:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Deputy Barnes', 'Y')ou can see that the Neanderthals really do persist in Europe; theh never went extinct or some such bullshit. Europeans are far removed from say, modern Africans, who do not have any Neanderthal genes
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Who is saying Africans have Neanderthal genes?

New evidence on Neanderthal mixing
October 22, 2014
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n examining the ancient Siberian’s ancestry, Fu found about 2.3 percent of his DNA came from Neanderthals. That is a bit higher than found in modern humans living outside Africa today — a level that ranges from 1.7 to 2.1 percent — but too small a difference to be statistically significant, Fu said. Her findings on the date of human-Neanderthal mixing dramatically narrowed the likely range to between 50,000 and 60,000 years ago, a much tighter window than the previous range of between 37,000 and 86,000 years ago.
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Re: Global Warming and the "Crisis of Credibility"

Unread postby Deputy Barnes » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 17:39:54

No one. If you read my post a little more carefully, you might comprehend that "modern Africans, who have no Neanderthal genes" means that modern subsaharan Africans have no Neanderthal genes; and are thus far removed from Europeans and Asians biologically and behaviorally speaking, in that they have never made any technological advances or built a civilization in the entirety of their 14,000 years of existence.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Deputy Barnes', 'Y')ou can see that the Neanderthals really do persist in Europe; theh never went extinct or some such bullshit. Europeans are far removed from say, modern Africans, who do not have any Neanderthal genes
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Who is saying Africans have Neanderthal genes?

New evidence on Neanderthal mixing
October 22, 2014
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n examining the ancient Siberian’s ancestry, Fu found about 2.3 percent of his DNA came from Neanderthals. That is a bit higher than found in modern humans living outside Africa today — a level that ranges from 1.7 to 2.1 percent — but too small a difference to be statistically significant, Fu said. Her findings on the date of human-Neanderthal mixing dramatically narrowed the likely range to between 50,000 and 60,000 years ago, a much tighter window than the previous range of between 37,000 and 86,000 years ago.
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Re: Global Warming and the "Crisis of Credibility"

Unread postby Quinny » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 18:08:57

All this talk about Neanthradal's is very interesting but totally fucking irrelevant. Is it some kind of religious psycho babble or something. Nothing to do with the credibility of AGW!
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Re: Global Warming and the "Crisis of Credibility"

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 18:17:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Deputy Barnes', 'T')he Harvard paper New evidence on Neanderthal mixing says humans and Neanderthals became distinct offshoots between 550,000 and 770,000 years ago, with a ~2% human-Neanderthal mixing between 50,000 and 60,000 years ago.

That 2% of our human genes is all that's left of Neanderthals.
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Re: Global Warming and the "Crisis of Credibility"

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 19:47:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Deputy Barnes', 'I')f you read my post a little more carefully, you might comprehend that "modern Africans, who have no Neanderthal genes" means that modern subsaharan Africans have no Neanderthal genes; and are thus far removed from Europeans and Asians biologically and behaviorally speaking, in that they have never made any technological advances or built a civilization in the entirety of their 14,000 years of existence.


That's just racist speak trying to wrap itself in pseudo-scientific justification.

And the statement is incorrect.

The Proto-Saharan Civilization

Ancient Sub-Saharan Civilizations


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ustralian historian Greg Jefferys explains that, “The whole ‘Out of Africa’ myth has its roots in the mainstream academic campaign in the 1990′s to remove the concept of Race. When I did my degree they all spent a lot of time on the ‘Out of Africa’ thing but it’s been completely disproved by genetics. Mainstream still hold on to it.”


Greg Jefferys is a White Supremist blogger. see his site here.

As they say, "Garbage in Garbage out".

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n the field of human genetics, the name Mitochondrial Eve refers to the matrilineal most recent common ancestor (MRCA) of all currently living anatomically modern humans, who is estimated to have lived approximately 100,000–200,000 years ago. This is the most recent woman from whom all living humans today descend, on their mother’s side, and through the mothers of those mothers, and so on, back until all lines converge on one person. Because all mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) generally (but see paternal mtDNA transmission) is passed from mother to offspring without recombination, all mtDNA in every living person is directly descended from hers by definition, differing only by the mutations that over generations have occurred in the germ cell mtDNA since the conception of the original "Mitochondrial Eve".

Mitochondrial Eve is named after mitochondria and the biblical Eve.[2] Unlike her biblical namesake, she was not the only living human female of her time. However, her female contemporaries, except her mother, failed to produce a direct unbroken female line to any living woman in the present day.

Mitochondrial Eve is estimated to have lived between 99,000 and 200,000 years ago,[3][4][5] most likely in East Africa,[6] when Homo sapiens sapiens (anatomically modern humans) were developing as a population distinct from other human sub-species.

Mitochondrial Eve lived later than Homo heidelbergensis and the emergence of Homo neanderthalensis, but earlier than the out of Africa migration.[7] The dating for "Eve" was a blow to the multiregional hypothesis and a boost to the theory of the origin and dispersion of modern humans from Africa, replacing more "archaic" human populations such as Neanderthals. As a result, a consensus emerged among anthropologists that the latter theory was more plausible.

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Barnes, it must really grate that there was an African in the woodpile (several generations of them in fact). :lol:
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Re: Global Warming and the "Crisis of Credibility"

Unread postby Ibon » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 20:36:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Deputy Barnes', 'I')f you read my post a little more carefully, you might comprehend that "modern Africans, who have no Neanderthal genes" means that modern subsaharan Africans have no Neanderthal genes; and are thus far removed from Europeans and Asians biologically and behaviorally speaking, in that they have never made any technological advances or built a civilization in the entirety of their 14,000 years of existence.


That's just racist speak trying to wrap itself in pseudo-scientific justification.


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Re: Global Warming and the "Crisis of Credibility"

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 21:19:12

Also Barnes, you misinterpreted Wolpoff. Or certain bloggers misinterpreted it for you.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')olpoff's continuing research for the last 15 years has been the development, articulation, and defense of his multiregional model of human evolution.[5] He suggests that after an African origin of Homo sapiens (including Homo ergaster/Homo erectus) and the subsequent migration of H. erectus throughout much of the globe with the exception of the Americas, local evolutionary events took place across the world (Africa, Europe, Asia, and when they were advantageous, they spread everywhere else.

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Wolpoff doesn't argue against an African origin for humans, he just argues that the migration out of Africa happened sooner.

But recent research has not been kind to his theory, especially DNA population studies.

The Nazis talked a lot about 'Teutonic blood'. You just substituted Neanderthal for Teutonic. Same nonsense.
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Re: Global Warming and the "Crisis of Credibility"

Unread postby Deputy Barnes » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 21:35:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Deputy Barnes', 'I')f you read my post a little more carefully, you might comprehend that "modern Africans, who have no Neanderthal genes" means that modern subsaharan Africans have no Neanderthal genes; and are thus far removed from Europeans and Asians biologically and behaviorally speaking, in that they have never made any technological advances or built a civilization in the entirety of their 14,000 years of existence.


That's just racist speak trying to wrap itself in pseudo-scientific justification.


This is a common tactic of Out of Africa extremists and leftists in general -- hurl the word "racist" at anyone who is not a True Believer. Ironically the Out of Africa theory itself is racist; because it posits that Africans are primitive. The cultural revolution that is supposed to have occurred outside of Africa that enabled humans to finally defeat the Neanderthal barrier in the Levant is conspicuously denied to Africans, under the theory.

Anyway; even the proponents of the theory don't deny that the earliest modern skulls are Europoid (caucasian) and not black (negroid). So under the Out of Africa theory, the first Africans were white men.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')hysical anthropologists generally consider the Cro-Magnons, who emerged during the Upper Paleolithic, as the earliest or prototype representatives of the Caucasoid race. In a study of Cro-Magnon crania, Jantz and Owsley (2003) have noted that: "Upper Paleolithic crania are, for the most part, larger and more generalized versions of recent Europeans."[30]

William Howells (1997) has pointed out that Cro-Magnons were Caucasoid based on their cranial traits:

... the Cro-Magnons were already racially European, i.e., Caucasoid. This has always been accepted because of the general appearance of the skulls: straight faces, narrow noses, and so forth. It is also possible to test this arithmetically. ... Except for Predmosti 4, which is distant from every present and past population, all of these skulls show themselves to be closer to "Europeans" than to other peoples — Mladec and Abri Pataud comfortably so, the other two much more remotely.[31]

Proponents of the multiregional origin of modern humans argue that Caucasoid traits emerged prior to the Cro-Magnons, and are present in the Skhul and Qafzeh hominids or in the Neanderthals. Carleton Coon (1962), for example, considered the Skhul IV specimen as a proto-Caucasoid.[32]


And the statement is incorrect.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')url=http://olmec98.net/proto2.htm]The Proto-Saharan Civilization[/url]

Ancient Sub-Saharan Civilizations


Those are afrocentrist sources and in any case these do not meet the requirement of civilizations, but just savages in contact with truly civilized Caucasoid north and northeast Africans.



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ustralian historian Greg Jefferys explains that, “The whole ‘Out of Africa’ myth has its roots in the mainstream academic campaign in the 1990′s to remove the concept of Race. When I did my degree they all spent a lot of time on the ‘Out of Africa’ thing but it’s been completely disproved by genetics. Mainstream still hold on to it.”

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')reg Jefferys is a White Supremist blogger. see his site here.

Now this borders on defamation, and is an outright lie. Jeffreys is not a white supremacist and that is not his blog. It is clear you do not even know who the man is, but merely googled his name in a frantic rage looking for any blog that might have quoted him, either that or you're just plain careless.

Mitochondrial eve was refuted in 95 and again this year. See the following:

http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInfor ... ElYtEko7cc

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')Barnes, it must really grate that there was an African in the woodpile (several generations of them in fact). :lol:

Yeah really "grate" except for the fact that there is no measurable African DNA in my genome, while everyone here has 2-5% Neanderthal DNA, the equivalent contribution of a great grandfather.
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Re: Global Warming and the "Crisis of Credibility"

Unread postby Deputy Barnes » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 21:45:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'A')lso Barnes, you misinterpreted Wolpoff. Or certain bloggers misinterpreted it for you.


Wolpoff doesn't argue against an African origin for humans, he just argues that the migration out of Africa happened sooner.


You are the only one who has misinterpreted anything here. Wolpoff argues that "out of Africa" happened earlier than the OoA replacement model, which suggests that humans left Africa 50,000 years ago give or take. Homo Ergasger is a half human primate who may have African origins and may be ancestral to the strain that left Africa about a million years ago, although remains in Georgia have been found that are older so this is nothing more than a presumption.

Note that proponents of this ridiculous theory are clinging to an African origin for "humanity". Humanity just has to have come from Africa, it is a psychological need for people to be able to say that mankind has African origins. Finally, something positive to say about that continent, even if it is entirely contrived. We I have news for you. Ergaster wasn't a human.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut recent research has not been kind to his theory, especially DNA population studies.

The Nazis talked a lot about 'Teutonic blood'. You just substituted Neanderthal for Teutonic. Same nonsense.


DNA backed him up. It was the recent discovery of Neanderthal Y dna that shattered the out of Africa theory and has now forced it to retreat to a multiple origins scenario. Newer genetic research is now refuting old ideas like mitochondrial eve, and recent discoveries in both the Old and New World are turning everything we thought we knew about this issue on its back.
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Re: Global Warming and the "Crisis of Credibility"

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 21:54:11

That IS Greg Jefferys' blog, and your quotes come directly from that article(see page 2).

You haven't a clue of what you speak. But what would you expect when you get your information from White Supremist websites.

Go away. We've heard enough of your racist drivel. And White Supremacy is off topic for this thread.
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Re: Global Warming and the "Crisis of Credibility"

Unread postby Deputy Barnes » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 21:55:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Deputy Barnes', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Deputy Barnes', 'I')f you read my post a little more carefully, you might comprehend that "modern Africans, who have no Neanderthal genes" means that modern subsaharan Africans have no Neanderthal genes; and are thus far removed from Europeans and Asians biologically and behaviorally speaking, in that they have never made any technological advances or built a civilization in the entirety of their 14,000 years of existence.


That's just racist speak trying to wrap itself in pseudo-scientific justification.


This is a common tactic of Out of Africa extremists and leftists in general -- hurl the word "racist" at anyone who is not a True Believer. Ironically the Out of Africa theory itself is racist; because it posits that Africans are primitive. The cultural revolution that is supposed to have occurred outside of Africa that enabled humans to finally defeat the Neanderthal barrier in the Levant is conspicuously denied to Africans, under the theory.

Anyway; even the proponents of the theory don't deny that the earliest modern skulls are Europoid (caucasian) and not black (negroid). So under the Out of Africa theory, the first Africans were white men.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')hysical anthropologists generally consider the Cro-Magnons, who emerged during the Upper Paleolithic, as the earliest or prototype representatives of the Caucasoid race. In a study of Cro-Magnon crania, Jantz and Owsley (2003) have noted that: "Upper Paleolithic crania are, for the most part, larger and more generalized versions of recent Europeans."[30]

William Howells (1997) has pointed out that Cro-Magnons were Caucasoid based on their cranial traits:

... the Cro-Magnons were already racially European, i.e., Caucasoid. This has always been accepted because of the general appearance of the skulls: straight faces, narrow noses, and so forth. It is also possible to test this arithmetically. ... Except for Predmosti 4, which is distant from every present and past population, all of these skulls show themselves to be closer to "Europeans" than to other peoples — Mladec and Abri Pataud comfortably so, the other two much more remotely.[31]

Proponents of the multiregional origin of modern humans argue that Caucasoid traits emerged prior to the Cro-Magnons, and are present in the Skhul and Qafzeh hominids or in the Neanderthals. Carleton Coon (1962), for example, considered the Skhul IV specimen as a proto-Caucasoid.[32]


And the statement is incorrect.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')url=http://olmec98.net/proto2.htm]The Proto-Saharan Civilization[/url]

Ancient Sub-Saharan Civilizations


Those are afrocentrist sources and in any case these do not meet the requirement of civilizations, but just savages in contact with truly civilized Caucasoid north and northeast Africans.



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ustralian historian Greg Jefferys explains that, “The whole ‘Out of Africa’ myth has its roots in the mainstream academic campaign in the 1990′s to remove the concept of Race. When I did my degree they all spent a lot of time on the ‘Out of Africa’ thing but it’s been completely disproved by genetics. Mainstream still hold on to it.”

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')reg Jefferys is a White Supremist blogger. see his site here.

Now this borders on defamation, and is an outright lie. Jeffreys is not a white supremacist and that is not his blog. It is clear you do not even know who the man is, but merely googled his name in a frantic rage looking for any blog that might have quoted him, either that or you're just plain careless.

Mitochondrial eve was refuted in 95 and again this year. See the following:

http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInfor ... ElYtEko7cc

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Barnes, it must really grate that there was an African in the woodpile (several generations of them in fact). :lol:

Yeah really "grate" except for the fact that there is no measurable African DNA in my genome, while everyone here has 2-5% Neanderthal DNA, the equivalent contribution of a great grandfather.


One of the subjects that Out of Africa extremists like to shy away from is the issue of Native Americans. The reason being that Native American skulls are more or less identical to Neanderthal skulls, and Native Americans have the closest genetic affinities to Neanderthals of any living people.


http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudies.o ... pca-views/

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They have also been linked to Europeans.

nytimes.com/2013/11/21/science/two-surprises-in-dna-of-boy-found-buried-in-siberia.html

It makes no sense that the people who are the furthest away from the Out of Africa migration and any hybridization that would have occurred would be more or less purebred Neanderthals. This actually lends credence to German Dziebel's Out of America theory, which is backed by much more evidence than any version of the Out of Africa theory.
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Re: Global Warming and the "Crisis of Credibility"

Unread postby Deputy Barnes » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 22:01:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'T')hat IS Greg Jefferys' blog, and your quotes come directly from that article(see page 2).

You haven't a clue of what you speak. But what would you expect when you get your information from White Supremist websites.

Go away. We've heard enough of your racist drivel. And White Supremacy is off topic for this thread.


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Unread postby Keith_McClary » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 22:37:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Deputy Barnes', 'D')NA backed him up. It was the recent discovery of Neanderthal Y dna that shattered the out of Africa theory and has now forced it to retreat to a multiple origins scenario. Newer genetic research is now refuting old ideas like mitochondrial eve, and recent discoveries in both the Old and New World are turning everything we thought we knew about this issue on its back.
But there is a conspiracy of OoA extremists to suppress the truth. :roll:

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Re: Global Warming and the "Crisis of Credibility"

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'A')nd White Supremacy is off topic for this thread.
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Re: Global Warming and the "Crisis of Credibility"

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 23:10:18

Barnes, you just argued white supremacy for 2 pages of this thread and quoted from an article on a white supremist website. Are you now trying to say, "But that doesn't make me a racist."

Typical.

You weren't called out as a racist because you are a Conservative. You were called out as a racist because you ARE a racist. And a flaming one at that. As you said, 'a true believer'.

Last I looked White Supremacy wasn't a Conservative value. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

The article you quoted went on to talk about Blood and Soil, or better recognized as Blut und Boden. The core of Nazi German ideology.
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Re: Global Warming and the "Crisis of Credibility"

Unread postby Deputy Barnes » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 23:55:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'B')arnes, you just argued white supremacy for 2 pages of this thread


Actually, my posts could only be construed as arguing for Native American/East Asian supremacy, but since reading is obviously not your forte, I won't hold it against you.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')and quoted from an article on a white supremist website.


Wrong. You googled text from my post, selected one of the many online blogs who have spread it around the net, and then decided that I not only pulled that quote from that particular blog, but that doing so would have made me a racist. You also slandered one of the Western world's greatest anthropologists by calling him a racist, a pathological habit of yours that resembles Tourette's syndrome.



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou weren't called out as a racist


You can just stop right there because the fact of the matter is that it is totally irrelevant if I am a racist or not. I laid the truth down on you, you couldn't handle the truth and so you called me a racist. The only conclusion you can come to at this point is that racism is the truth, because I have shown you what is true; and you are literally dumber than a god damn cave man because of it.
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Re: Global Warming and the "Crisis of Credibility"

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Fri 24 Oct 2014, 00:07:07

Yeah, yeah, yeah....

Here's a Quarter (call someone who cares)
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