[KaiserJeep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'h')ttp://www.adn.com/2013/11/04/3157985/study-88-billion-earth-sized-just.html

[ralfy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'Y')ou appear to be reading half my posts and understanding rather less. I don't believe the "fast crash" scenario.

I mentioned that the end of the world, the mass extinction we are in now, has been going on for over a millenium. It was not technology that killed the world, it was Agriculture and Medicine. When Kunstler called his book about the Oil Peak The Long Emergency, he was certainly correct.

Space colonies a millenium from now are still soon enough. Meanwhile I have done far more than my share of making it possible for more people to live longer using less resources, while having one child.

My career could be either a service or a curse depending upon your point of view. To a Gaia worshiper, engineers would be the devil incarnate, enabling the further rape of the planet. To a Technologist, I have been a success, lived my life according to my beliefs, and I know it.

[SeaGypsy]

KJ is the biggest jerk on this site in years. Makes Shorty seem humble and humorous.

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'B')ecause one cannot "Terra-form" or "Geo-engineer" an entire planet, there is a problem of scale, and it would take a geological age.

[KaiserJeep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'B')ecause one cannot "Terra-form" or "Geo-engineer" an entire planet, there is a problem of scale, and it would take a geological age.

[SeaGypsy]

Your ego won't let you admit the truth- it is human to be part right and part wrong. You get a few things right, so you think you have it all right. "Clean Comfortable" = bullshit sales pitch. Anyone interested in some Mars RE? Or perhaps a share in the Boston Bridge?

[KaiserJeep]

SG, for the greater good of the Forum I have decided that I will not exchange insults with you. I have politely asked you not to behave as you are doing in several threads. My impressions of you and your intellect slip a little bit each time we have one of these conversations. Perhaps you should reflect upon that for a few moments.

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'S')G, for the greater good of the Forum I have decided that I will not exchange insults with you.

[Tanada]

Space The Final Frontier!

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', '
')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'S')o can we focus on what is important and leave the irrelevancies aside? What is important is that we will run out of that wonderful dense form of concentrated sunlight that we call fossil fuels, and (at least) 3/4ths of the human race will starve. I consider that a little more important than some rich folks losing beach-front real estate or me having to add a few days of A/C use. Global Warming has more positive aspects than negative ones, for sure.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')n a visit to Russia's Cold War ally Cuba, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said the sanctions lacked "all common sense".

US moves to restrict high-tech exports to Russia appeared to cause particular fury, with Rogozin warning Washington was "exposing their astronauts on the ISS".

The International Space Station is operated jointly by Russia, the United States, Europe, Japan and Canada.

Astronauts and cosmonauts depend on Russian Soyuz rockets to ferry them between it and Earth, ever since NASA scrapped its space shuttles in 2011.
http://news.yahoo.com/us-reviving-iron-curtain-policies-russia-094611975.html

[Subjectivist]

Both ESA and Japan have the cargo modules and have used them longbefore the "private sector" american companies ever got off the ground. The real concern is nothing to do with cargo, it is all about crew. If we are POing Russia why would they ferry our astronauts to the station for us? We had a viable space shuttle capability to send our own crew members but the remaining shuttles have all been put into museums by the President. It isn't their fault we scrapped our space transport system that w spent hundreds of billions developing and perfecting, that was our decision not theirs.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', ' ')If we are POing Russia why would they ferry our astronauts to the station for us?

[Keith_McClary]

"The White House said on Monday the United States would deny export licences for any high-technology items that could aid Russian military capabilities and revoke existing licences."

I wonder how this will affect the Ukraine military/aerospace industry, which is highly integrated with Russia. Will the US block exports to Ukrainian companies that sell to Russia?
Ukrainian defence industry 'unaffected' by crisis with Russia
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n addition to offering repair and overhaul facilities to international customers (MiG-23 'Flogger', MiG-27 'Flogger-D', and Aero L-39 Albatross aircraft are also serviced), Ukraine has a number of military aerospace programmes in which it is partnered with Russia. These include co-development of the Antonov An-70 transport aircraft, as well as the supply of engines for the Yakovlev Yak-130 'Mitten' jet trainer aircraft, the Mi-26 'Halo' heavy-lift helicopter, and the Beriev Be-200 amphibious aircraft. JSC Motor Sich also provides the powerplants for platforms manufactured by Russian Helicopters.

Indeed, Russia's renewed participation in and financial underpinning of the An-70 programme was dependent on Ukraine turning its back on the EU association agreement that sparked the recent popular uprising in Kiev. The decision to restart production of the Antonov An-124 'Condor' strategic transport aircraft had more to do with relations between the two countries than Russia's airlift needs.
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Ukraine currently has about 200 programmes and programme elements that are sourced from Russia. These are valued at USD138 million per year (out of Ukraine's total procurement spend of about USD500 million), and cover aerospace, maritime, and land systems.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'N')othing would serve Russian ego better than seeing SpaceX rush a manned flight and kill an astronaut.

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'W')e had a viable space shuttle capability to send our own crew members but the remaining shuttles have all been put into museums by the President. It isn't their fault we scrapped our space transport system that w spent hundreds of billions developing and perfecting, that was our decision not theirs.

[AgentR11]

There is a bit of hyperbole involved, but I think the underlying message is that we are parting ways when it comes to how to pursue space. I don't think the Russian's have ever gotten their "money's worth" out of ISS, and perhaps never really had their hearts in it. They had years of manned station time before ISS was operational, other than, "ooh look, pretty white paint in space...", not much to get excited about.

I do think the Russians and Chinese have the right attitude about space to succeed at something we are unwilling to do. Mars... go... and do *not* return. When you start designing a mission that doesn't require lifting a human off of Mars, and replace all that mass of extra metal and fuel with water and supplies and equipment, you go from sci-fi speculation, to CAN DO NOW.

That's my hunch anyway.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'Y')ou completely missed my point, as usual. I loved the Space Shuttle until I figured out what a Nixonian boon doggle it actually was, but throwing it away before we had a working replacement was stupid and short sighted.

[Keith_McClary]

End dawns for Europe's space cargo delivery role$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')urope will close an important chapter in its space flight history Tuesday, launching the fifth and final robot ship it had pledged for lifeline deliveries to the International Space Station.
The 20-tonne Automated Transfer Vehicle (ATV) dubbed Georges Lemaitre, the size of a double-decker bus, is set to blast off from South America with fuel, water, oxygen, food, clean clothes and 50 kilogrammes (110 pounds) of coffee for six Earth-orbiting astronauts.
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The craft will carry nearly 6.6 tonnes of supplies for the orbital outpost and its occupants, including 850 litres of drinking water—the most ever, and three tonnes of fuel.
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50 kilogrammes of coffee to "rejuvenate" the crew
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Since there is no washing machine in space, the robot craft will bring underwear, socks and clean clothes
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All met their operational objectives, somewhat muting criticism of the programme's total 4.2 billion-euro ($5.6 billion) cost.

[Graeme]

NASA Probes Record Sounds In Space – And It’s Terrifying.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')espite what you’ve heard, there are actual sounds in space.

Due to the virtual vacuum in space, it’s not sound like you and I experience it (that being waves pulsing through the air), but there are electromagnetic waves that pulsate at the same wavelength as the sound waves we can hear.

Instruments on several NASA probes including Voyager have recorded these waves and translated them into a sound that we can hear, and they are all kinds of spooky. This is the kind of thing you hear in a movie just before someone opens a door in a dark hallway.

So, take a listen to the true nature of the solar system. And sleep tight.

[Newfie]

Cool, thanks.