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Re: If Cars Really Could Drive Themselves How Many Would We

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Mon 24 Mar 2014, 15:46:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'I')f we're going to fantasize about a city full of driverless cars, why not fantasize about a city full of driverless flying cars.

Much more fun.

Typical Planty. Representing the far right view, full of science denial and resistance to change.

The science and evidence for progress behind the technology for driverless cars is abundant. It is happening, whether you deny it or not. The only question is when.

This reminds me of the shrill denial of strong chess players as chess playing programs advanced rapidly from the early '80's for 15-ish years until Deep Blue defeated world champion Garry Kasparov in 1997 in a match.

(Much like Planty denial, Kasparov claimed IBM "cheated" and there is even a paranoid "documentary" movie about his delusions, but the reality is pretty obvious. Today, chess grandmasters don't dare play a dynamic position against a top class computer -- or they get tactically CRUSHED.)

Though we may still be a decade or two away from the fully autonomous version, the driverless cars are coming, and Google is testing them now. In several years, they went from getting lost on a small test track in the annual race to test their progress to averaging fairly high speeds and completing long complex courses. All you have to do is Google "driverless car" and you can find articles, Nova documentaries, etc. on this subject.

Denying this is occurring makes as much sense as denying evolution occurred, that the earth is warming in recent decades (for whatever the reason), or that the earth is 6000 years old since the Bible tells us so.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: If Cars Really Could Drive Themselves How Many Would We

Unread postby yellowcanoe » Mon 24 Mar 2014, 16:23:43

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Though we may still be a decade or two away from the fully autonomous version, the driverless cars are coming, and Google is testing them now. In several years, they went from getting lost on a small test track in the annual race to test their progress to averaging fairly high speeds and completing long complex courses. All you have to do is Google "driverless car" and you can find articles, Nova documentaries, etc. on this subject.


As our future is almost certainly going to be one where our standard of living is dropping I find it a little hard to believe that we are going to be able to make the investments that would be required to support driverless cars on a large scale. Even maintaining the existing road network will be a challenge as asphalt is made from oil.
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Re: If Cars Really Could Drive Themselves How Many Would We

Unread postby Pops » Mon 24 Mar 2014, 16:32:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yellowcanoe', 'E')ven maintaining the existing road network will be a challenge as asphalt is made from oil.

Actually we - or rather, Canada, has plenty of asphalt. Kind of a indication of the predicament we're in is that we're making oil out of it.

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Re: If Cars Really Could Drive Themselves How Many Would We

Unread postby Graeme » Fri 11 Jul 2014, 21:18:48

Navigant forecasts 40% of new vehicles in 2030 will have some form of autonomous driving capability; 75% by 2035

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n a new research report (“Autonomous Vehicles”), Navigant Research forecasts that by 2030, about 40% of new vehicles sold will have some form of autonomous driving capability installed. The company expects this to increase to 75% by 2035.

Although the first vehicles with some self-driving capability will come to market in 2020, Navigant said, it expects it will take another 5 years before volumes become significant. By 2030—if the recent proposed changes to the Vienna Convention (which would allow autonomous vehicles with a driver control override) are approved—Western Europe will be slightly ahead on first implementation, but the much larger automotive markets in Asia Pacific and North America will eventually lead, according to the research firm.


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Re: If Cars Really Could Drive Themselves How Many Would We

Unread postby americandream » Fri 11 Jul 2014, 21:44:46

Greencarcongress!

Is there a smilie for exasperation.
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Re: If Cars Really Could Drive Themselves How Many Would We

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Sun 21 Jun 2015, 20:21:33

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Will Suncor's driverless trucks put Alberta truck drivers out of work?
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Driverless trucks are coming to Alberta's mining operations. Last week, Suncor Energy Inc. confirmed that it has entered a 5-year agreement with a Japanese manufacturer of autonomous vehicles. The company has already agreed to buy 175 driverless trucks, and a spokesperson says it plans to replace its entire fleet by the end of the decade. Local union members are concerned that the technology could lead to the loss of hundreds of jobs.
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Re: If Cars Really Could Drive Themselves How Many Would We

Unread postby Tanada » Mon 22 Jun 2015, 08:26:51

I was watching a YouTube about America's biggest coal mine where they use the largest dump truck ever. Makes the one above look like a peewee. Anyhow the guy being interviewed was explaining that about once a year a mine dump truck will run over a full size pickup because the driver has a very limited field of view and can not see the pickup approaching. He also implied that because they drive strictly off road over rough terrain the dump truck doesn't even realize they ran over a pickup, it just feels like another bump in the landscape to the driver.

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