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Paradigms & The Peak Oil Trap

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Re: Paradigms & The Peak Oil Trap

Unread postby Pops » Tue 18 Mar 2014, 16:18:18

I actually think most people aren't afraid of any of that bad stuff, how the light switch works is not remotely interesting, it just does. It not working is so far off their radar they never give it a thought. You have to have an appreciation for the complexity of the modern system (and an understanding of what life would be like without it) to be afraid it will collapse

The reason for armageddon movies is romancing an actual challenge that contrasts with their amazingly empty day-to-day, fantasizing events that have actual consequences, otherwise all they have is the yearning for facebook fame and the reality that they're grow up and won't marry a Kardashian.

I suppose that is in the back of a preppers mind too.
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Re: Paradigms & The Peak Oil Trap

Unread postby ralfy » Tue 18 Mar 2014, 22:52:12

Likely, most people worldwide have been experiencing these lack of conveniences for decades as they earn only around a few dollars a day. But increasing numbers are earning more and are joining the middle class.
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Re: Paradigms & The Peak Oil Trap

Unread postby Subjectivist » Mon 14 Apr 2014, 12:28:38

Oh I dunno Pops, my parents bth grew up in the 1930's and the stories I heard about hard times sure didn't sound very romantic to me. My father and his older brother both did day labor work for a neighbor with a bigger farm because the neighbor fed them a hardy lunch that relieved my grandparents of feeding two teen age boys when money was short. My mother worked as a teen in the local cannery that only operated during harvest season, they would start with early crops like sweet corn and finish up with tomatoes in the fall after school. Her father died when she was 14 so the family needed every dime the kids could earn to put food on the table.

Nope, not romantic at all and I hope to pass away as a contented old fart having never experienced times like those, but history is full of dissipointed people who wanted the same thing.
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Re: Paradigms & The Peak Oil Trap

Unread postby Pops » Mon 14 Apr 2014, 18:21:38

If your parents were raised in the 30, you were born in the 40s or 50s which makes youover the hill worldly and wise - like me. It's those wet behind the ears whippersnappers without a clue about the real world I'm talking about!

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