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Mother Teresa Evil | Ghandi Racist

Postby Aaron » Thu 16 Jun 2005, 20:11:05

Mother Teresa Evil

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat about her celebrated concern for the poor and the weak? Here the record is much murkier than her saintly image would suggest. I have been shown testimony from leading American and British physicians, expressing their concern at the extremely low standard of medicine practiced in her small Calcutta clinics. No pain killers, syringes washed in cold water, a fatalistic attitude toward death and a strict regimen for the patients. No public accounts were made available by her "missionaries of Charity" but enormous sums are known to have been raised. The income from such awards as the Nobel Prize is alone enough to maintain a sizable operation.

In one on-the-record interview, Mother Teresa spoke with pride of having opened more than 500 convents in 125 countries, "not counting India." It seemed more than probable that money donated by well-wishers for the relief of suffering was being employed for the purpose of religious proselytizing by the "missionary multinational."


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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')andhi’s desire for the Indians to be segregated from the blacks was so strong that he went to Johannesburg in late August of 1904 to protest the placing of blacks in the Indian section of the city: “Why, of all places in Johannesburg, the Indian Location should be chosen for dumping down all the Kaffirs of the town passes my comprehension. ...Of course, under my suggestion, The Town Council must withdraw the Kaffirs from the Location. About this mixing of Kaffirs with the Indians, I must confess I feel most strongly.”


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Thanks to Penn & Teller.

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Postby 0mar » Thu 16 Jun 2005, 20:24:28

Wasn't Ghandi a Hindu?

Kaffir (or kuffar, kaffar etc etc) is an arabic word for disbelievers. It's used often in the Qu'ran to seperate Muslims from the non-believers.
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Postby Jack » Thu 16 Jun 2005, 20:46:28

Aha! I always knew "Mother" Teresa was evil. Anytime I saw her, I got this odd reaction - and since I am a good person, clearly she was evil incarnate.

With her extensive network of so-called charities, one wonders how much money laundering she might have done. Oh, she put on a show of embracing poverty - but who can say what opulent private quarters she might have maintained.
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Postby Tyler_JC » Thu 16 Jun 2005, 20:50:45

Interesting trend I've noticed...

During the time that Ms. Teresa was in business, the number of poor people working in sweat shops increased every year. Also during the same time, outsourcing to these sweat shops increased. Additionally, she spent an awful lot of time in the third world working with, erm, "charities". And yet I have seen no personal benefits from her work except for cheaper manufactored goods...

Coincidence?

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Postby Aaron » Thu 16 Jun 2005, 21:12:03

The Penn & Teller piece goes on to document her visit to Mrs. Baby Doc in Haiti where she received over a million bucks from these despot criminals, then spent the money in India to convert the heathens to Christianity...

As opposed to say... ummm I dunno... maybe...

FEEDING THE STARVING HAITIAN PEOPLE PERHAPS?

It's particularly evil since the money she received from Baby Doc was originally stolen from the people of Haiti.

They also document Gandhi sleeping with naked young girls on a regular basis, as well as performing enemas on various women personally.

Gandhi apparently means farmer or something, which I have no problem with.

But the Mahatma title means saint right? I don't think so really... He did some good stuff, but Racists with enema fixations hardly scream "saint" to me.

On the Kafir thing, what's German for insulting slang representing blacks? (Niggers here in the US) Cause he was clearly speaking of the native Africans.
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Postby MicroHydro » Thu 16 Jun 2005, 21:45:26

"Mother" Teresa probably didn't have any babies. That I can approve of.
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Postby big_rc » Thu 16 Jun 2005, 22:18:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'T')he Penn & Teller piece goes on to document her visit to Mrs. Baby Doc in Haiti where she received over a million bucks from these despot criminals, then spent the money in India to convert the heathens to Christianity...

As opposed to say... ummm I dunno... maybe...

FEEDING THE STARVING HAITIAN PEOPLE PERHAPS?

It's particularly evil since the money she received from Baby Doc was originally stolen from the people of Haiti.

They also document Gandhi sleeping with naked young girls on a regular basis, as well as performing enemas on various women personally.

Gandhi apparently means farmer or something, which I have no problem with.

But the Mahatma title means saint right? I don't think so really... He did some good stuff, but Racists with enema fixations hardly scream "saint" to me.

On the Kafir thing, what's German for insulting slang representing blacks? (Niggers here in the US) Cause he was clearly speaking of the native Africans.


OK Aaron, your posts are so full of bullshit that I can smell them through this computer. I'm sorry to tell you that you have no clue as to what you are talking about and you are being very foolish by disparaging the names of two truly great people. Ghandi was absolutely not a racist. I suggest you go read his incredible book "All Men are Brothers" for an education instead of quoting from some dumbass magicians. Also Mahatma means "Great Soul". Your attacks on Mother Teresa are also wrongheaded and I sense that you have a problem with her due to the religious nature of her work. At any rate, feel free to send me your address so I can send you a quarter so that you might be able to buy a clue.
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Postby Aaron » Thu 16 Jun 2005, 22:26:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'m sorry to tell you that you have no clue as to what you are talking about and you are being very foolish by disparaging the names of two truly great people.


So educate me...

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Postby Tyler_JC » Thu 16 Jun 2005, 22:26:10

...I think someone missed the joke... :roll:
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Postby Aaron » Thu 16 Jun 2005, 22:29:22

Not really...

I didn't make this up I swear.

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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 16 Jun 2005, 22:33:56

Ghandi may have slept with girls naked, but if my memory serves me right, he also practiced what Lawrence Durrell once called 'the chilly art of seminal stoppage', i.e. he was celibate.
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Postby Aaron » Thu 16 Jun 2005, 22:35:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'G')handi may have slept with girls naked, but if my memory serves me right, he also practiced what Lawrence Durrell once called 'the chilly art of seminal stoppage', i.e. he was celibate.


I'm not sure if that's less disturbing... or more?
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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 16 Jun 2005, 22:37:35

:lol: I know what you mean.
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Postby big_rc » Thu 16 Jun 2005, 22:41:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'m sorry to tell you that you have no clue as to what you are talking about and you are being very foolish by disparaging the names of two truly great people.


So educate me...

(Great sig btw) :P


OK sorry about the inflammatory post. My blood pressure has been acting up lately.

Ghandi went through a rather fascinating transformation which started in South Africa. The quotes that you are referring to were very early in Ghandi's career as a lawyer in South Africa. After he saw the evils of apartheid and started protesting it, he slowly started changing his view of the world and the things that seperate people. He didn't become the naked, bald little wise man until later in his life after he moved to India and worked for independence. One of his biggest points was the brotherhood of all mankind and it was this point along with his non-violent tactics which directly influenced Dr. Martin Luther King and the civil rights movement of the 60s.

Those quotes you pulled up are unfair and are akin to pointing to GWB's youthful alcoholic coke binges and saying that they define the man today.
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Postby JB2 » Thu 16 Jun 2005, 22:49:23

Don't know much about Ghandi, except for Richard Attenborough's turgid movie.

But Mother Theresa (or MT, as Christopher Hitchens likes to call her) was stone evil - a horrible, horrible person; the very definition of a poverty pimp. The Platonic Ideal of a poverty pimp.

A poverty pimp is someone who (1) likes to make money; and (2) takes ghoulish pleasure by being around suffering poor people. MT was a heavy hitter on both counts.

I love the way MT took millions from Charles "S&L" Keating, and then refused to return it to the American taxpayers who had to foot the bill for his crimes.

And I especially love her staunch opposition to birth control, while her "mission" collected starving, diseased, unwanted children.
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Postby Aaron » Thu 16 Jun 2005, 23:02:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hose quotes you pulled up are unfair and are akin to pointing to GWB's youthful alcoholic coke binges and saying that they define the man today.


But I do think GWB's past made him the man he is today.

And everybody else.

I acknowledge that Gandhi may have turned a corner on being a racist, later in his life. And good for him... but I think "great spirit" might be gelding :) the Lilly a bit.

And what was the stuff about encouraging the Jews to remain in Nazi Germany whatever the consequences? Solidarity is one thing... but that's just obscene IMO.

While the apparent fixation on enemas and abstinence while sleeping with naked women isn't really evil, I'm pretty sure I would not want him sniffing around my daughter ya know?

I just found it interesting to see valid criticism of these iconic figures of pop-mythology.

You should see what they said about the Dali Lamma...
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Postby lorenzo » Fri 17 Jun 2005, 00:02:53

Ping. Ping. Anglosaxon spam alert.
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Postby Jack » Fri 17 Jun 2005, 00:20:10

Hmm...so Ghandi was a pervert? Perhaps he was given the title "mahatma" in the ironic sense?

Could it be a clever pun? Where great soul actually means "great soles" with the implication that large feet correlate with other...(ahem) large parts?

It also occurs to me that Ghandi may not have been naturally bald. Perhaps he shaved his head? Is it possible that Ghandi was, in fact, a skinhead?

The mind boggles!
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Postby Raxozanne » Fri 17 Jun 2005, 00:34:19

Funny that. It's like when I read a book about the great movers and shakers of the 20th century. In the public eye they were perfect but in their private lives it was a different story all together. I don't think that anyone can be perfect all the time and to expect so is a little unrealistic. Almost eveyone has done something they are ashamed of or has a darkish secret (some darker than others). But it's funny how celebrated people can have 'other' sides which are sometimes shocking that their 'fans' didn't know about.

But I think that even if Mother Teresa practiced poor hygiene etc. something was better than nothing :-D
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Postby Michael_Layden » Fri 17 Jun 2005, 03:35:02

This overall group is discussing peak oil. This has been caused by a few generation and only a few countries basically using up many many times there fair share of this and many other resources while thrashing the planet doing it.

This is a truly evil act. How is it possible?

In my eyes more and more it is not because we have too many people it is because we have too few good people. Society has never needed role models more, it needs people to understand that quiet, simple lives devoted to the betterment of mankind and the planet is a worthwhile goal.

The easiest way there is of persuading people to look out for number one is to persuade them that all that leaders, religous etc are only out for themselves. I am fortunate to have know a great many real goof people growing up and these inspire me.

In practical terms if we pull down all positive role models then we might as well admit we are barbarians and without hope. It is my belief that both Mother Theresa and Mathma Gandi impact on the planet was truly magnificent and a bright ray of sunshine in a century which had very little. They probably had flaws but I would always wonder about the motivation of people who try to blacken our believe that there is another way. We spend 100s millions annually persuading people that they are worthless, spotty, overweight, pieces of shit who need to go and buy x y z to feel better or to be someone.

MT and MG don't help this marketing and it would greatly surprise me if a lot of the negative spin doctoring about them is to get rid of this obstacle to producing perfect selfish consumers.
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