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Post peak: what worries you more?

What's on your mind?
General interest discussions, not necessarily related to depletion.

Post peak: what worries you more?

Food
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Water
4
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Safety
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Health
8
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Transports
3
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Something else
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Total votes : 53

Re: Post peak: what worries you more?

Unread postby Tanada » Fri 03 Jan 2014, 11:10:51

I agree with SPG, medical care is a 'modern' concern but in much of the world medicine is a meager effort and many people still live to a reasonably elderly age.

Security would be my biggest concern, if those electronics zombies can't text or tweet a thousand times a day what will they do? Many of them will lash out until things settle down. That is assuming a fast crash scenario, in a slow crash there are way too many variables to be able to even guess what the biggest concern should be. If you don't have three months or more food on hand you are not planning for any kind of trouble, you are just assuming the local grocer will always have what you want or need right when you want or need it.
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Re: Post peak: what worries you more?

Unread postby Pops » Fri 03 Jan 2014, 14:35:23

Why is no one worried about those things now? Because they have a job and use the money to buy what they need. Post Peak making a living is the biggest problem, which of course means all of the above.

Cheap oil = cheap labor and so it has allowed us to do the thing we are best adapted for, which isn't digging ditches, it's being creative and inventing stuff. Making and buying and selling all that stuff is also powered by cheap oil. Our economy then is based on oil and without cheap oil and the surpluses it brings and the make-work jobs it's allowed, the economy will shrink.

How do 99.9% acquire all the things on the poll list? They buy them. With a job enabled by cheap oil. Without cheap oil many many jobs go away and people will have no way to buy the things they need
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Re: Post peak: what worries you more?

Unread postby Subjectivist » Fri 03 Jan 2014, 15:22:08

Pstarr you don't need one oppressor for each prole, the key to all the successful terror states was twofold. First make the security forces ruthless and terrifying to the average prole. Second, offer some form of reward to any role who rats out another prole who breaks the rules. In this fashion no more than 1% of your population will ever be a member of the security forces, but 90% of th proles will be compliant out of fear, both of their neighbors and of the security forces.

Pops, I am worried about hese things and I always have been lol, that is why I spend my time in places like po.com. Granted I am not normal, just ask my wife.

Tanada, I like my shop on demand lifestyle, but I try and think beyond the next week an I was working on modest preperations before I lost my job.
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