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Japan to send android to international space station

Postby Sixstrings » Thu 17 Feb 2011, 12:25:57

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TOKYO (AP) -- Lonely astronauts on the International Space Station may soon be getting an android friend from Japan.

And for the folks back home, it will tweet.

Japan's space agency is considering putting a talking humanoid robot on the International Space Station to watch the mission while astronauts are asleep, monitor their health and stress levels and communicate to Earth through the microblogging site Twitter.

Japan's space agency JAXA announced this week that it is looking at a plan to send a humanoid robot to the space station in 2013 that could communicate with the ground through Twitter -- primarily feeding photos, rather than original ideas -- and provide astronauts with "comfort and companionship."

Following up on NASA's "Robonaut" R-2 program, which is set for launch on the Discovery shuttle next week, the Japanese android would be part of a larger effort to create and refine robots that can be used by the elderly, JAXA said in a statement.

Japan is one of the leading countries in robotics, and has a rapidly aging society with one of the world's longest life-expectancies.

Improving robot communication capabilities could help the elderly on Earth by providing a nonintrusive means of monitoring the robot owner's health and vital signs and sending information to emergency responders if there is an abnormality, JAXA said.

"We are thinking in terms of a very human-like robot that would have facial expressions and be able to converse with the astronauts," said JAXA's Satoshi Sano.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Japan-may-send-chatty-apf-2190521386.html?x=0&.v=1


Interesting.. the Japanese must be very serious about these androids to send one up to the ISS -- it's not like there's cargo space for frivolous projects.
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Space miner: the job of the future — today!

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Re: Space miner: the job of the future — today!

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Space OTSF: What if there is no happy ending; an ecologist's POV

Postby KaiserJeep » Tue 08 Oct 2013, 19:22:54

I believe that we have the technology to construct habitats in space. I think we should start doing so NOW.
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Re: What if there is no happy ending; an ecologist's POV

Postby KaiserJeep » Tue 08 Oct 2013, 19:30:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'I') believe that we have the technology to construct habitats in space. I think we should start doing so NOW.
Yes we do. Absolutely we have the technology. Just not the energy.


I saw a TV show yesterday (Earth 2100) that mentioned that to give every human presently on Earth the lifestyle equivalent to a US citizen, we would need the raw materials and fossil energy of three more planets like the Earth.
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Re: What if there is no happy ending; an ecologist's POV

Postby thylacine » Wed 09 Oct 2013, 02:33:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kaiser Jeep', ' ')I believe that we have the technology to construct habitats in space. I think we should start doing so NOW.

... and do what? One of the main lessons from the last few decades is that we live on the only inhabitable bit of the solar system. Life for us is here on Earth - there's no running away from our mess to some mythical clean slate world.

Maybe an animal with intelligence and creativity is an evolutionary dead end. Or maybe it's being blessed with self-awareness and refusing to use or only partially use that wisdom that is our problem.
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Re: What if there is no happy ending; an ecologist's POV

Postby SeaGypsy » Wed 09 Oct 2013, 03:11:45

Nothing upsets me more than seeing/ hearing otherwise intelligent people fantasizing about 'off world salvation'- a total crock of shit that it is. I can forgive Hawkins as he has had to live in an extremely difficult bodily state all his life and he does an amazing job at it. For ordinary functioning humans to accept that our species is in the process of utterly destroying this ecosystem, then talk about hubris OMG- it's time to find and wreck (yes it's find first) another ecosystem- well I can't find the words or the ones I want to type don't belong on a family friendly forum. How does one scream 'When will you wake the f#@k UP?' on the internet?
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Re: What if there is no happy ending; an ecologist's POV

Postby KaiserJeep » Wed 09 Oct 2013, 12:02:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'N')othing upsets me more than seeing/ hearing otherwise intelligent people fantasizing about 'off world salvation'- a total crock of shit that it is. I can forgive Hawkins as he has had to live in an extremely difficult bodily state all his life and he does an amazing job at it. For ordinary functioning humans to accept that our species is in the process of utterly destroying this ecosystem, then talk about hubris OMG- it's time to find and wreck (yes it's find first) another ecosystem- well I can't find the words or the ones I want to type don't belong on a family friendly forum. How does one scream 'When will you wake the f#@k UP?' on the internet?


Only a fool would expect personal salvation on a space habitat. At most a few thousand humans could benefit, we are clearly talking about survival of the species, and in this same solar system - and we have the knowledge and the technology, and lack only the will and the plan.

Prior mass extinctions have resulted in 90+% of the then-current species rendered extinct, and perhaps as much as the death of 98% of the living tissue of all species combined. Since the current mass extinction includes the possibility of nuclear war, we might reach 100% - and any combination of widespread environmental damage PLUS nuclear war, is all too likely to sterilize the globe - or at least take us back to single-celled life. Having space habitats including living arks of all the biodiversity we now enjoy is a sensible precaution and one that might short-circuit the re-population of the planet by millions of years.
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Re: What if there is no happy ending; an ecologist's POV

Postby ritter » Wed 09 Oct 2013, 14:17:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'H')aving space habitats including living arks of all the biodiversity we now enjoy is a sensible precaution and one that might short-circuit the re-population of the planet by millions of years.


You've got to be joking. A space ark? Do you have any idea how big that would have to be to be a viable option? It's not like you can just take one pair of each species and expect a viable population. Even if you could, there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of species. And then you'd need to provide them with a livable habitat. Good luck with that plan.
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Re: What if there is no happy ending; an ecologist's POV

Postby KaiserJeep » Wed 09 Oct 2013, 17:54:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ritter', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'H')aving space habitats including living arks of all the biodiversity we now enjoy is a sensible precaution and one that might short-circuit the re-population of the planet by millions of years.


You've got to be joking. A space ark? Do you have any idea how big that would have to be to be a viable option? It's not like you can just take one pair of each species and expect a viable population. Even if you could, there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of species. And then you'd need to provide them with a livable habitat. Good luck with that plan.


The O'Neill cylinder habitat design was published in 1976. It is 8km diameter and 32km long. It awaits a viable asteroid mining industry for materials. We could cluster literally dozens at the Earth-Moon LaGrange points.
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Re: What if there is no happy ending; an ecologist's POV

Postby KaiserJeep » Wed 09 Oct 2013, 19:26:56

You either believe in technology, or you don't. We know everything we need to know to build space habitats, we lack only the will. Hubbert is not the only one looking forward.

Try the Kindle edition of this work (the hardcopies are out of date):
http://www.amazon.com/Step-Farther-Out-Jerry-Pournelle/dp/0441785832

It's a work by Jerry Pournelle called "A Step Further Out". A review:

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')"Among non-fiction books, one of the best is Jerry Pournelle's A Step Farther Out. It contains essays he wrote throughout the seventies. One of the main goals of the book is to show that we can escape the Four Dooms--starvation, pollution, overpopulation, and depletion of natural resources.

How? By developing the resources of the entire solar system; not just Earth. It isn't just a fluffy, "let's go to space" dream, either. Dr. Pournelle goes through the numbers, demonstrating that by developing the natural resources of the entire solar system we can survive, happily and with our high-energy society, for thousands of years. We can't survive if we stay on Earth--we'll run out of natural
resources and starve--but we will survive if we use our solar system.

Pournelle makes a compelling and entertaining argument in a book so well written you just can't put it down. He also reviews many fascinating scientific and technological breakthroughs and developments. I can't possibly do this book credit here. You'll just have to read it."
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Re: What if there is no happy ending; an ecologist's POV

Postby SeaGypsy » Wed 09 Oct 2013, 21:12:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ritter', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'H')aving space habitats including living arks of all the biodiversity we now enjoy is a sensible precaution and one that might short-circuit the re-population of the planet by millions of years.


You've got to be joking. A space ark? Do you have any idea how big that would have to be to be a viable option? It's not like you can just take one pair of each species and expect a viable population. Even if you could, there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of species. And then you'd need to provide them with a livable habitat. Good luck with that plan.


The O'Neill cylinder habitat design was published in 1976. It is 8km diameter and 32km long. It awaits a viable asteroid mining industry for materials. We could cluster literally dozens at the Earth-Moon LaGrange points.


The biggest turd in the Universe- complete with extremely dangerous pathogens. Fricken brilliant.
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Re: What if there is no happy ending; an ecologist's POV

Postby KaiserJeep » Thu 10 Oct 2013, 02:15:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', '
')The biggest turd in the Universe- complete with extremely dangerous pathogens. Fricken brilliant.

One of my physics professors was on a NASA panel on space habitats along with O'Neill and Pournelle. He was one of the smartest people I ever met.

I've never met you. Yet you seem to be full of uninformed opinions about just about everything, and don't hesitate to ridicule those who don't agree with your rants.

Please share with me what you know about O'Neill space habitats and the pathogens they contain. I'm real curious about how you came by the information, since none have yet been built or inhabited.
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Re: What if there is no happy ending; an ecologist's POV

Postby SeaGypsy » Thu 10 Oct 2013, 02:43:48

You are the pathogen dummie. (does this really need spelling out?)
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Re: What if there is no happy ending; an ecologist's POV

Postby SeaGypsy » Thu 10 Oct 2013, 03:09:49

There is nothing uniform about intelligence. One can be brilliant in one area and dumb as doggie doodoo in another. Those of moderate intellect such as KJ tend to blur this reality and think if they meet someone really brilliant in some area or other, everything they say must be close to Gospel- regardless of the well studied nature of specialized intelligence.

The idea that because we are well on the way to screwing this planet into a Mars or Saturn like desert or toxic soup we should therefore rush towards off planet reality to sustain our genus really reeks to betsy.

Before we have any right to declare ourselves worthy of outliving this planet- we MUST prove that we can be worthy occupants of this one. If we cannot then we are nothing but a hideous pathogen- intelligence or no intelligence. Those claiming otherwise and simultaneously claiming to be intelligent are certainly not worthy of a place on the eventual star fleet- if there is to ever be one- in the few million years it is likely to take to cross the physical, intellectual and MORAL boundaries to such endeavor.
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Re: What if there is no happy ending; an ecologist's POV

Postby KaiserJeep » Thu 10 Oct 2013, 03:19:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'Y')ou are the pathogen dummie. (does this really need spelling out?)


Well, obviously, since YOU spelled "dummy" as "dummie" in your feeble attempt to insult someone on the opposite side of the Earth. That WAS enough to give me a real belly laugh at your expense.

Now you have a choice. You can continue to argue from ignorance and prejudice, or you can read the book I linked to above, and actually have the information required to form your own opinion on the matter of space colonies and the materials and energy sources available in space.

It will cost you US$4.99 to become informed. It's also a good read. Remember the Kindle edition is the only one updated in 2011.
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Re: What if there is no happy ending; an ecologist's POV

Postby SeaGypsy » Thu 10 Oct 2013, 03:30:06

I have done enough reading on such stupidity and moral cowardice. Not interested. The best you can come up with in your argument is 1/appeal to 'authority', 2/ dismissing everything I say as 'uninformed' and 3/ picking on my spelling- (Lol! as if I don't know how to use spell checker or as if this adds weight to your perverse intention to inflict your evil upon the entire Universe).
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Re: What if there is no happy ending; an ecologist's POV

Postby KaiserJeep » Thu 10 Oct 2013, 03:32:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'T')here is nothing uniform about intelligence. One can be brilliant in one area and dumb as doggie doodoo in another. Those of moderate intellect such as KJ tend to blur this reality and think if they meet someone really brilliant in some area or other, everything they say must be close to Gospel- regardless of the well studied nature of specialized intelligence.

The idea that because we are well on the way to screwing this planet into a Mars or Saturn like desert or toxic soup we should therefore rush towards off planet reality to sustain our genus really reeks to betsy.

Before we have any right to declare ourselves worthy of outliving this planet- we MUST prove that we can be worthy occupants of this one. If we cannot then we are nothing but a hideous pathogen- intelligence or no intelligence. Those claiming otherwise and simultaneously claiming to be intelligent are certainly not worthy of a place on the eventual star fleet- if there is to ever be one- in the few million years it is likely to take to cross the physical, intellectual and MORAL boundaries to such endeavor.


My, what a load of claptrap. Who is the "we" you are talking about? Why must we behave as you believe? Whom is it we are proving whatever it is you want proven to? Above all, why is it that YOU are above all others and calling these shots?

Here's what I believe: There is a fantastic opportunity in space, nearly unlimited energy and materials and living space. Far from being impossible, we are in fact on the cusp of the first commercial space flight venture. (Ever heard of a fellow named Sir Richard Branson, or a company called Virgin Galactic?)

I believe that far from being impossible or even unlikely, that the human expansion into space is unavoidable, and that space is the next frontier, since we have recently filled up this planet and exceeded the long term carrying capacity of the ecosphere.

Some humans will colonize space. Then there will be those like you, who will still, I am thoroughly convinced, be grumbling about such foolish ventures when the huge returns start rolling in.

How did you get to be such a curmudgeon?
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