Post Peak Yachting

by **Aaron** » Mon 06 Jun 2005, 17:59:32

Oh Yeah...

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by **Triffin** » Mon 06 Jun 2005, 19:21:07

Don't laugh ..

For those that have the means ( the boat )
and the skills ( sailing/navigating ability )
Life on a sailing vessel Post Peak maybe
a viable way to go .. Wind/sun for power generation,
food from the sea .. the ability to hoist anchor and
head for wherever should the locals get testy :wink:

Not a bad option really .. Exumas anyone ??

Triff ..

by **MicroHydro** » Mon 06 Jun 2005, 19:34:58

I have sailed across the Pacific twice and have thought about this also. But, there are many problems. Nothing lasts forever, especially at sea, so you periodically need spare parts to repair things.

Port calls have their problems. In rich countries, there are stiff port taxes and slip fees. In poor places, you might be able to anchor out very cheaply. You also might be at the mercy of pirates and theives. Read the story of Sir Peter Blake: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/1206-05.htm

by **Triffin** » Mon 06 Jun 2005, 20:49:20

I agree with your points, but I'd feel safer
in cruising mode than trying to eek out an
existance landlocked somewhere in a potential
MadMax post PO world .. if it came to that ..

I've had considerable offshore experience also ..
Blake was in a place I wouldn't have gone ..

Triff ..

by **Sys1** » Tue 07 Jun 2005, 12:02:53

If it's Mad Max on lands, it will be Waterworld on oceans :-D

by **TheTurtle** » Tue 07 Jun 2005, 12:06:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sys1', 'I')f it's Mad Max on lands, it will be Waterworld on oceans :-D

by **Daculling** » Wed 08 Jun 2005, 09:37:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sys1', 'I')f it's Mad Max on lands, it will be Waterworld on oceans :-D

by **JBinKC** » Sun 12 Jun 2005, 17:58:19

Nice thought but it still doesn't solve the problem of the pirates who still roam the sea today.

by MD » Sun 12 Jun 2005, 18:23:26

Living at sea is a very risky proposition, even with global stability. Best choice remains small communities with quality farmland surrounding.

by **I_Like_Plants** » Sun 12 Jun 2005, 18:41:46

Piracy is a HUGE problem even now, in these good times.

There's a little magazine called "Santana, Southern California's Sailing Rag" which is free in Newport Beach, you might be able to find their address and order a subscription, every issue is full of real-life stories and concerns and Q&A, and I swear, every issue has stories of stuff going on on the high seas that makes me want to stay at home!

If you're considering going sea-mobile, you'd better get a sub to that and read it, or walk the plank!

I think there may be some sites on the net by/for sailors too, the open ocean is NOT a friendly place, and especially not for overfed, soft, "Western" people who have no idea who a tough place the world can be. I think there's a book out called "The Outlaw Sea" about the general lawlessness of most of the world's shipping, and it probably discusses piracy too.

My impression is, the average American boat-owner deciding to sail the world may be analogous to Pee Wee Herman going to NYC to be a bike messenger.

by **marko** » Sun 12 Jun 2005, 22:26:41

I strongly considered a seafaring strategy and gave it up because of security concerns. I am close to being able to afford a seaworthy sailboat (something that could serve as a fishing boat rather than the racing yachts that are mostly what's for sale), which would be somewhat cheaper than a tract of land in New England suitable for subsistence farming. I have some sailing experience and considered signing on as a crew on an oceangoing yacht to build up my experience, as this kind of life appeals to me in the abstract.

I decided against this, figuring that a seagoing boat would be a hugely valuable prize and easily resold for cash in a chaotic situation and figuring that I would probably lose the ship (and my life savings) to pirates. I don't think that land will be as easy to steal, particularly with a good community defense corps. The rootlessness of a seafaring life would make it hard to form the kind of community ties and mutual defense structures that will be necessary to protect property in a time of collapse.

The only people, in my opinion, who will be able to pull off a seafaring life in this situation, will be the pirates themselves (and the remnant navies of the world). And the pirates will themselves lead lives full of risk to life and limb (from other pirates, naval vessels, etc.)

by **Pfish** » Sun 12 Jun 2005, 22:36:08

In today's sailing world, when people travel distances, they usually travel in groups to take into account random pirating and other issues that come up on the way to a new destination. I would be more scared of having a mast break than getting taken over by pirates....

PP

by **Hawkcreek** » Sun 12 Jun 2005, 23:38:38

by **k_semler** » Mon 13 Jun 2005, 02:10:41

And how exactly would one convert a 26 foot Carver to be powered by sails? The hull isn't really that optimised for anything other than the Chevy 350 that powers it. It really wouldn't turn fast enough to be of any use with sail power. Not to mention, without battery power, how would it be possible to adjust the trim tabs, and run the onboard sonar? What about the marine radio?

by **Hawkcreek** » Mon 13 Jun 2005, 15:01:04

by **Triffin** » Mon 13 Jun 2005, 16:10:48

This could be a nice place to visit ..

Found this extensive photo collection from
a Danish dentists' visit to Greenland ..

Capital is Nuuk, has about 13,000 residents
Might be an interesting summer destination for
you post PO yachties out there

http://mytrip.dk/esider/ebsider/image001.html

Triff ..

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