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Where do you get your news?

What's on your mind?
General interest discussions, not necessarily related to depletion.

What is your primary source for English-based news?

Poll ended at Mon 11 Jul 2005, 02:16:39

U.S. Local Newspaper (e.g. Seattle P-I, Dallas Morning News)
2
No votes
FOX News
3
No votes
CNN
2
No votes
CNBC/MSNBC
2
No votes
U.S. Local Television (e.g. KOCO-TV)
0
0%
International Local Television or Newspaper
0
0%
Washington Post/New York Times/USA Today
2
No votes
Rush Limbaugh (or other conservative talk radio)
1
No votes
Broadcast News (ABC/CBS/NBC)
2
No votes
Other Source
41
No votes
 
Total votes : 55

Where do you get your news?

Unread postby arretium » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 02:16:39

Who provides your primary source for English-based news? Is it an American source? U.K.? New Zealand? FOX News? Let's find out!

If your choice is other, please explain.

I did not provide an option for "U.K. vs. Australia v. New Zealand v. Ireland" because there just wasn't enough poll spots available..so I decided to narrow it down to America v. the rest of the english speaking world.

My vote: OTHER
I wanted to include
Google News (my choice)
BBC,
Drudge report, and the
Wall street journal, but I just had too many choices. Damn limited system!
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Unread postby katkinkate » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 02:52:22

ABC (that's Australian Broadcasting Corporation) radio and internet news, google, PeakOil.com, Witchvox, the newspapers left on the lunch room table at work.
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Unread postby jato » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 03:14:03

Other= Internet= Google, Drudge, etc.
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Unread postby pilferage » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 03:14:16

I don't trust the news. :-D
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Unread postby arretium » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 03:47:57

I guess the big news here is what a lousy poll I wrote.
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Unread postby bart » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 04:01:53

The web, totally. It's one fix after another for us news junkies.

CONVENTIONAL
Google News http://news.google.com/
UK Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/
SF Chronicle http://www.sfgate.com/
Paul Krugman http://www.pkarchive.org/
Juan Cole (Mideast) http://www.juancole.com/

ENVIRONMENTAL
Gristmill http://gristmill.grist.org/
WorldChanging http://www.worldchanging.com/
Tidepool (great news portal for Pacific Coast, environmental slant)
http://www.tidepool.org/

LIBERAL/LEFT
Znet http://www.zmag.org/weluser.htm
Common Dreams http://www.commondreams.org/
Working for Change http://www.workingforchange.com/

PEAK OIL NEWS
Energy Bulletin http://energybulletin.net/
Peakoil.com http://www.peakoil.com
Global Public Media http://www.globalpublicmedia.com/
Flying Talking Monkey http://flyingtalkingdonkey.blogspot.com/

BLOGS (mostly Peak Oil)
MOBJECTIVIST http://mobjectivist.blogspot.com/
The Oil Drum http://theoildrum.blogspot.com/
Peak Energy (US) http://peake.blogspot.com/
Peak Energy (Australia) http://peakenergy.blogspot.com/
Resource Insights http://resourceinsights.blogspot.com/
(there are other good ones... just can't keep up)
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Re: Where do you get your news?

Unread postby Zentric » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 04:21:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('arretium', '
')If your choice is other, please explain.


I'm another "other".

Timely question. With respect to politics, the mainstream media isn't adequately covering the news that really matters. And what's worse is that precious few Americans seem to actually be aware or care. So we're in bad need of alternative sources.

As "anti-advice", I know about yahoo.com (my "vanilla" mainstream source) directly, where just about all their national and international news comes from the Associated Press. AP reporters will typically either whitewash a story that's unflattering to the administration, or will neglect covering it all together. Other stories by them will insinuate vast schisms among the Democrats, where in reality no schism exists. Downing Street Memo - say what?

For my "reality-based" news, I stay here or go to other reality-based blog spots, where the hosts and posters together manage to keep things, well, real. By following promising links, I get to research topics pretty deep.

www.smirkingchimp.com holds little back.

Wow. Nice list, bart.
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Unread postby KevO » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 04:32:52

Come on peak oil.com!
You're surprisingly a little out of tune, to say the least!
So far 100% of your votes in this poll have been for 'other source'.
You missed the main ones.
You have astonishingly left out the BBC.co.uk, Reuter.com and Peak Oil.com along with LATOC.
Then there's Drudge with all it's world's media links a scroll down the page and the best one of all by far (Check it out) is
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/
check out the free live newsfeeds on the left column


(you're welcome!) :)


Cancel the poll and re-do it please!

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Unread postby savethehumans » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 04:54:49

Of course, from the Net! Alternate sources like this, and many others. I think you might want to re-do this poll, listing the various alternative news sites. But depending on the MAINSTREAM MEDIA for news?! What an insult to my intelligence! :x :lol:
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Unread postby bart » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 05:12:21

I'm almost as surprised as arretium -- who woulda thunk there was so much skepticism about the mainstream media?

Good for you, PO.com denizens!
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Unread postby arretium » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 05:36:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bart', 'I')'m almost as surprised as arretium -- who woulda thunk there was so much skepticism about the mainstream media?

Good for you, PO.com denizens!


I really did try to include the altnerative news sources but i couldn't list enough options while still listing the main ones... Yea this poll sucks, especially given the fact that no one has picked any of the main sources.
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Unread postby lorenzo » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 06:32:31

The majority of the media sources you mention, chose to "embed" themselves in the MIC, and so they consciously chose to give up being journalistic media alltogether.
So for people looking for news, there's no other choice than to avoid those.

I often look at them to learn about spin and spam tactics though.

For English News, I use the English section of radio France Inter.
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Unread postby lowem » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 06:33:08

*mumbles something relating to preaching and choir, or something* :lol:
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Unread postby bart » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 06:35:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('arretium', 'Y')ea this poll sucks
No! You tried something, we learned something.

Try again. See what you come up with.
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Unread postby ArimoDave » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 14:12:36

Other: Generally PBS and the links I get from here. If the news is really important, I figure
that I will hear about it through word of mouth. I think this makes for a good dribble filter;
I don't gossip with folks.

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PS It is interesting that Peak Oliers don't rely on the conventional sources -- I wonder why? *sarcasm*
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Unread postby NeoPeasant » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 17:16:04

I have learned from mainstream media that the most important news demanding the most exhaustive coverage is lurid tales of sexual crime, preferably when the victim is a cute blond American teenage girl or the perpetrator is the king of pop. Why you guys drone on about trivialities like peak oil and the end of industrial civilization I'll never know.
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Unread postby Barbara » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 18:32:02

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Unread postby Leanan » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 19:41:30

I don't trust any one source. I like international sources. Though they are not totally unbiased, if you read a bunch of different sites/papers, you get a pretty good idea of what's going on.

I think what really drove home how useless CNN, Faux News, and other U.S. outlets are was the Jessica Lynch story. While all American sources were reporting how bravely Lynch fought, shooting till her gun jammed, and how heroic the troops who boldly rescued her were, international papers were reporting the truth. She was injured in a car crash, not while fighting. The Iraqis tried to turn her over to U.S. troops the day before she was rescued, but were turned back at a checkpoint. They didn't know enough English to explain. And by the time she was rescued, Iraqi soldiers had deserted the hospital, leaving only a bunch over of overworked, unarmed, and bewildered doctors and nurses.

Finally, weeks after the truth had appeared overseas, some American papers started to report it. Usually on the back of page 12, or some such. Freedom of the press, my anklebone. The press is anything but free. And that's the problem. There's tremendous pressure to report what people want to hear, not what they need to hear. It's all ratings and circulation now. News has become entertainment.
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Unread postby jmacdaddio » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 23:22:29

I listen to the conservative talk shows from time to time so I can understand what they're shouting about. It's important to understand the opposition so you can destroy any of their arguments.
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Unread postby k_semler » Sun 12 Jun 2005, 01:18:52

If by "primary", you mean most subjected to, then I would say talk radio. I listen to the radio almost every waking moment of my day, usually on 1150 AM KQQQ, or 590 AM KQNT. If on the other hand, by "primary" you mean most trusted, I would say the BBC, RNZI, and Radio Netherlands. I by far trust international sources more than domestic sources of news. I have found that through a variety of persectives, that a closer approximation of the truth can be obtained than by domestic broadcasts. Unfortunatly, I am only able to pick up the international stations between 1700 and 2300 PST. I can't really pick up SW radio that well between 0600 and 1659. Between 2300 and 0559 I am in bed, but when I worked the night shift, I usually was able to pick up RAI, RNZI, and CRI pretty well. I have never yet been able to pick up KCNA. I hope someday I do recieve thier broadcasts. It would be interesting to hear what the enemy has to say. Does anyone if there is such a thing as a walkman that can pick up SW radio?
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