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Unread postby Leanan » Fri 10 Jun 2005, 10:50:26

From CNN, an article about how old suburbs have become very desirable real estate:

http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/09/real_es ... /index.htm

Probably even more so when TSHTF...
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Unread postby FoxV » Fri 10 Jun 2005, 11:13:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he cities that these "inner ring" communities surrounded had become crime-ridden and difficult to govern.

and this is when things were pretty good in the 80's. When TSHTF, these area's will be nightmere's
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Unread postby Leanan » Fri 10 Jun 2005, 13:11:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'a')nd this is when things were pretty good in the 80's. When TSHTF, these area's will be nightmere's


Maybe, maybe not. Crime is very much an age-driven phenomenon. It's mostly young males that commit violent crimes.

That's why crime is dropping. The Democrats will say it's because they hired more cops, the GOP will say it's because of tougher sentencing laws. The truth is that America is aging. The boomers who propelled the crime wave in the '60s are now eligible for AARP discounts, and aren't likely to be committing rape or armed robbery any more.

I think crime patterns may well change when TSHTF. Kids won't be able to afford gas to drive out to suburbs. Even the train will be expensive. Will cities then become crime-ridden? Maybe. But I suspect they will be the last bastion of order. There's safety in numbers. Will the cops be able to patrol rural and suburban areas when gas is $20 a gallon? Doubtful. They'll pull back to the cities. Leaving the farms and suburbs vulnerable.
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Unread postby hull3551 » Fri 10 Jun 2005, 14:25:29

Well I think there are a lot of reasons that people are moving back to the tier-I suburbs, and the article touched on them nicely.

I personally am amazed at the crappy quality of the new homes and the shoddy materials used to construct them. I am even more surprised what people pay for these. As the article stated, the houses built in the earlier part of the 1900’s were built with far-superior material, including old-growth lumber, plaster, etc. These houses were naturally cooler (based upon design and trees, etc.) so in many climates you can actually keep the windows open in the summer, versus the constant drone (and energy requirements) of central air. There is also the fact that so many of these homes have character and uniqueness, as compared to the inferior cookie-cutter crap homes these people buy in the newer suburbs.

Add to this the overburdened infrastructure, the crowded schools, unfriendly pedestrian environments, and people will soon enough realize it isn’t really worth it to live in the ex-burbs.

I think the crime issue almost contrasts what was posted here (for now, at least). Criminals are not stupid. They are going to the ‘burbs to perpetrate their crimes, and people realize they are not that much safer forty miles as compared to five miles outside the cities. Obviously, post-PO, you will see an overall drop in popularity of the ex-burbs – whether new money, crime, or investment overall.
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