[MarkL]

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[spot5050]

This is the first article I've ever see on BBC News Online which directly addresses PO....

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4077802.stm

[savethehumans]

Yeah, but that 2013 PO date they're hawking is just going to make the public yawn and say, "Oh, we've got a few years. Why worry now?"

[bart]

The BBC piece is by Adam Porter who has been writing on PO and energy for some time. Way to go, Adam!

[AdzP]

Cheers mi dear. You saw that before I did!

all the best
adam

[GL]

I remember seing a number of PO articles from the BBC besides this new one. Links:

Is the world's oil running out fast?

When the last oil well runs dry

Hopefully they will explore the subject in depth. BBC has a lot of respect all over the world.

[JoeW]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('savethehumans', 'Y')eah, but that 2013 PO date they're hawking is just going to make the public yawn and say, "Oh, we've got a few years. Why worry now?"

[Dvanharn]

Deborah White - naive

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')eborah White, senior energy analyst at Societe Generale in Paris, says: "Controlling suburban blight is one way to slow oil consumption until we are a society no longer dependent on oil."

[spot5050]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dvanharn', 'D')eborah White - naive

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')eborah White, senior energy analyst at Societe Generale in Paris, says: "Controlling suburban blight is one way to slow oil consumption until we are a society no longer dependent on oil."

[NEOPO]

Miss White refers to PO as an "idea"

She suggests that we should stop suburban sprawl.
Hey wait a minute - isnt that the new american dream?

Heres a recent article on U.S. homes sales:

NAR article

Here is an excerpt from the article:

"Existing-home sales are forecast to rise 1.6 percent to a total of 6.89 million this year from a record 6.78 million in 2004, while new-home sales are seen to grow by 3.2 percent to 1.24 million in 2005. At the same time, housing starts are projected to increase 3.4 percent to just over 2.02 million units, the highest level since 1973. "

[Mango]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('savethehumans', 'Y')eah, but that 2013 PO date they're hawking is just going to make the public yawn and say, "Oh, we've got a few years. Why worry now?"

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mango', '
')From what I've read throughout many articles over the internet, 2013 is the projected peak for ALL oils, not just crude. Please correct me if I'm wrong in this analysis.

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdzP', 'C')heers mi dear. You saw that before I did!

all the best
adam

[Stovepipe]

I think Peak Oil is real, not some half baked conspiracy theory. This guy seems to think I am wrong. He came up with these arguments and graphs which I responded to in the following posts, what else should I add. I am no expert on this stuff, so your help would be appreciated, those of you that have studied the issue more than myself.

This is in the off topic section of a gaming forum read by kids scatterred across Europe and America. You can see that this topic is twenty pages long and many months old. How about a little wisdom to help me refute their latest points, because I can do it, but probably not as succinctly as you folks.

Please post your response here or register and post it over there.

Thanks for your help.


http://invisionfree.com/forums/Jack_the ... &p=1655149

http://invisionfree.com/forums/Jack_the ... &p=1655160

[rogerhb]

The behaviour of the oil companies themselves!

1. They are merging and buying each other out, this does not increase the total amount of reserves, but the books of the result look bigger.

2. Shell downsizing it's reserves 4 times, it got hammered in the stock market and the director had to resign, that seems like an option of last resort.

3. Chevron, www.willyoujoinus.com

4. BP now stands for Beyond Petroleum

5. Peaking of backdated reserves in 1960s.

6. Saudi has repeatedly claimed it will increase production but very little new has been seen over the last year.

[Golgo13]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', 'T')he behaviour of the oil companies themselves!

[some_guy282]

Bartlett lecture

You should watch that video yourself if you havn't yet. See if you can get this other guy to watch it too. If that doesn't shut him up, nothing will.

[Stovepipe]

Thank You for your responses!

[Stovepipe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('some_guy282', '[')url=http://edison.ncssm.edu/programs/colloquia/bartlett.ram]Bartlett lecture[/url]

You should watch that video yourself if you havn't yet. See if you can get this other guy to watch it too. If that doesn't shut him up, nothing will.

[LadyRuby]

Here's another response to them. Most of the oil companies are producing less oil this year so far than they did at the same time last year. Through the 2nd quarter of this year (pre-Katrina, obviously), here's how much less they are producing so far this year:

Chevron: -6%
Shell: -5.6%
Total Oil: - 3.9%
ConocoPhillips: - 0.5%
Exxon: -4.0%

This while oil prices in the same time period have increased by 40% or so. Unless people think they are all in collusion (no way, too many involved), then clearly there's a problem since these big guys get oil from all over the world.

By the way, anyone can find this information for themselves on the companies websites, look under news releases, and find the quarterly performance reports.