[Quinny]

I am also amazed.

I continually ask someone to prove me wrong, but no-one has come close. Difficult to think there are so few who share our understanding of the current crises.

Are we wrong?

[Newfie]

IMHO the uber issue is over population and all else fall from that. Some feel strongly that cc is more imminent than PO.

My thought is that you can not separate the issues successfully. Cc and PO both drive up the cost of food, which will certainly cause civil unrest and may cause financial Armageddon.

Living in a large urban center I am fairly convinced that the proximate cause of my untimely death, if I did not take care, would be some poor guy from the ghetto.

The point is its is all connected.

All this being said, we gave up TV altogether 4 years ago. Now when we see it it is easier to see it as a worthless sham. For 4 months this summer I was pretty much out of touch. I now find I turn off NPR because there is nothing of meaningful content.

I read a lot. I post here and two other places. I figure that you guys are a better source of info than any "new" source. I do flip through csmonitor and bbc and msnbc occasionally but I find very little of relevance there. It is all just noise drowning out reason.

Last year I reread 1984 and found it even more accurate than I had recalled.

If you eat to read and learn about how humanity deals with a crisis or resource depletion or ethics I recommend these three books.

Winston Churchill History of WWII first book, learn about denial and inaction
Farley Mowat for resource depletion even at our own economic peril
E.O. Wilson Social Conquest of Earth to understand where ethics comes from and why we want to kill the guy next door, or more understandably, why he wants to kill you.

[Newfie]

No, not at that time in Newfoundlands history, although not a hundred years before and in that place, it would have been true.

As to who to fear, I suspect that the answer depends upon your locale. If you live suburban or rural you may be right. I live in the center of the donut, and in my case I am right.

The rest is semantics, we substantially agree.

[SeaGypsy]

Even overpopulation comes after oil. Oil is in everything we use to make and raise children in 90%+ of the world's populated areas and there is no doubt there would be a heck of a lot less humans without it.

The psychotic denial part, spot on.

Don't you have a yacht ready to go Newfie? At what point does the wife agree that it is time to use it? When mob violence emerges in your city or neighbourhood? When you go to the ATM and can't get your own money? What are your trigger points?

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', '
')Don't you have a yacht ready to go Newfie? At what point does the wife agree that it is time to use it? When mob violence emerges in your city or neighbourhood? When you go to the ATM and can't get your own money? What are your trigger points?

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'I') figure that you guys are a better source of info than any "new" source.

[ralfy]

Zero Hedge
Desdemona's Despair
Energy Bulletin

Any news that I am unable to read from these sites will likely appear in various forums.

[Newfie]

Here is a tid bit of news from cruisersforum.com. Folks cruising in Mexico find that the police often wear ski masks to protect their identity and thus their family. They get paid $300 to $600 a month.

So that might be a good sign to look for in a failing state.

[SeaGypsy]

There are plenty of places not yet defined as 'failed states' where the biggest criminals are the police.

[DarkDawg]

I must give props to http://agonist.org where I first found peakoil.com!!!!

also like:
http://www.bloomberg.com
http://kunstler.com/blog/
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/
and of course:
http://www.heavy.com (...for all you freaks out there. You know who you are.)

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'p')olice often wear ski masks ...
So that might be a good sign to look for in a failing state.

[Newfie]

I just stumbled across this site which looks interesting.

http://deepresource.wordpress.com/about/

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his site aimes at raising the public awareness of all matters linked to geopolitics, energy and resources in general. The editor of this site believes that the world has arrived at the point predicted by The Club of Rome in 1972 and that scarcities of all sorts are now beginning to bite. Understanding the problem is the precondition of solving the problem, in as much as this is possible at all.

Added value for you by following this blog: we keep track of developments in the field, read articles and books and give pointers and short summaries so you can decide if is worth to dive into the subject in detail yourself. By reading merely a few headlines you can be sure to be kept up-to-date about major developments in the field.

[vaseline2008]

Not in any particular order:

PeakOil.com
Cheezburger Some sites are NSFW
ebay
Craigslist
Yahoo Finance
Seeking Alpha

[Pops]

Check out http://www.resilience.org/ it's the new version of Energy Bulletin (Post Carbon Institute)