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Re: USGS Releases Global Oil & Gas Reserve Growth Estimates

Postby seenmostofit » Thu 16 Aug 2012, 19:15:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'S')ame report you posted before...

No that doesn't mean reserves doubled - LOL!


Actually, those are two different reports. The one originally noted by the OP was global reserves growth, excluding the US. The newest link was to a release of domestic US reserve growth just a few days ago.

Looks like the press release language was similar, which would make it confusing to those who didn't actually notice that one was for like 600 billion barrels or something, and the other for 30 or something.
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Re: USGS Releases Global Oil & Gas Reserve Growth Estimates

Postby Graeme » Thu 06 Sep 2012, 19:49:54

Shale Oil Reserves Questioned Too

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he USGS recently released new EUR numbers for all shale gas plays in the country and the numbers were significantly lower than operator claims. (See previous post)

Interestingly, this same phenomenon is playing out in shale oil as well.

The Eagle Ford in south Texas has been touted to be perhaps even bigger than Prudhoe Bay as far as potential. But after careful scrutiny of shale oil, it looks to be little more than a shale gas makeover: same girl, different shade of lipstick.

As with all shale plays, whether dry gas or liquid rich, the hype is tremendous. That is because this exercise appears to be about drilling for dollars in the capital markets more than drilling for natural resources. It would be nice to see the hyperbole toned down and a more circumspect analysis forthcoming. I am not hopeful.


Further, the SPE report examines production data up through early 2012 so their numbers are timely. SPE’s conclusion?

“…the mean EUR per well [for the Eagle Ford] is 206,800 BOE and the median is 160,500 BOE”

That is four times less than operator claims of 850,000 BOE, a significant difference.


In short, SPE concluded that average EUR’s for the Eagle Ford are 206,800 BOE/well, significantly less than many operator claims of as much as 850,000 BOE. The decline profiles suggest high initial decline rates and little hyperbolic nature. In fact, the decline rates are very high indeed with some in excess of 90% in the first year. The per well EUR has not shown any general increase since mid-2010 in spite of heady comments by industry such as “we are very early in the game and recovery factors are being improved by leaps and bounds”, a comment made a mere two weeks ago in late summer 2012, a full two years after the historical production data “has not shown any general increase since mid-2010″. Frac size and perforated length turn out to have only a rough correlation to EUR rather than the certainty promised by industry. And SPE states that any reference to BOE should include better explanations than operators are currently providing.


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Re: USGS Releases Global Oil & Gas Reserve Growth Estimates

Postby Pops » Thu 06 Sep 2012, 19:59:28

Thanks Greame, just what a lot of people have been saying.

Look at where the profits are, from your link:
“EURs are going up substantially. Operators have rushed in…It’s going to take a very, very long time to develop all that acreage, perhaps a century…”
"making it impossible to predict with any certainty how much above $100,000 per acre we will see. "

Wow, $1,000 a year.

But it's really about the leases isn't it? Salt the mine and sell it to the next sucker.
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Re: USGS Releases Global Oil & Gas Reserve Growth Estimates

Postby rockdoc123 » Thu 06 Sep 2012, 23:45:10

With reference to Graeme posts Shale Oil Reserves Questioned Too


I have access to SPE and read the paper. This guy has a really impressive resume but I have to say this presentation (it was a presentation so wasn’t peer reviewed) has a number of erroneous assumptions and I can only write it up to the fact he works for the State rather than oil companies who have the actual information, he is hence forced to guess. My quotes will come from the actual SPE paper.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ddressing this, the lease EUR is simply divided by the well count. Most multiple well leases were
excluded from the normalizing work.


Ok, mistake number one. In any given well pad it is not that uncommon to have a failed well. It might have to do with a bad completion or casing collapse or any number of issues. You need to look at the production statistics on a successful well by well basis. He apparently doesn’t have access to all this data .

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')inally, some leases have production that starts slow and increases or is initially erratic as early production problems are solved. Since inclusion of these leases would distort the results, all these were excluded from the normalizing work


He must be kidding. Anyone who has worked in the industry dealing with shale gas/liquids production has seen this. The type curves are an average of everything. There are many examples of erratic wells that eventually have settled off to being close to the type curve in their later life. The EUR from the IP will within a statistical frame to be in the ballpark. There are as many cases of wells that are erratic that have higher EUR than normal versus the ones that are lower. This exclusion alters the view significantly.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ost papers, articles, and company reports fail to explain or define how natural gas is converted to barrels-of-oil-equivalent. The traditional 6 MCF/BBL conversion on the basis of BTU might have been used, but the divergence in oil and gas prices no longer make this a meaningful approach.


OK, Government employee who knows nothing about the SEC requirements for reserve reporting. All gas must be reported under the 6 MCF per Boe standard. There is no option unless as a publically traded company you want to have your share trading halted and the SEC putting a large size investigative camera up your backside repeatedly until you yell UNCLE (not referring to the sixties TV series us old guys remember). The conversion is set so it is comparative across all companies/countries/jurisdictions etc. What a maroon.

Sorry but even given this guys background I have to say this is an absolute BS study, he links wells of all kinds which could be anything from a 100 m lateral with 1 frac to a 1000m lateral with 7 fracs and all in between as being equivalent under his statistical analysis. They aren’t and that fact makes most of what he is suggesting invalid.

And one of the most naive things I have ever seen (and that amoungst people who aren’t engineers) is the plot where he compares amount of sand utilized in a well versus EUR. This guy clearly hasn’t worked in this particular aspect of the industry or he is playing games. First of all the amount of sand used is dependant on how many fracs are performed in a given well. If I am doing a bunch of low weight fracs it will look the same as one very large single frac in this analysis. Notwithstanding the fact that many of the current wells don’t use sand at all, but rather silicon beads because they have greater structural strength. The amount of sand used in a frac (or sand replacement for that matter) would only have a relationship to a single frac in a well, not multiple fracs. This is a pretty obvious point.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s a proxy for horizontal length, I substituted the length of perforated interval from the public records for 257 of the wells in the study group and correlated it to the EUR forecast.


What he is missing is that the amount of perforated interval isn’t equivalent to the amount of actual formation in contact with the well bore. As an example I have seen 1 km wells with the same amount of perforated interval as 500 m wells, the reason being you only need to perforate enough to get your frac away, you do not perforate the entirety of the wellbore. This is a very poor application of statistics.

And then he shows a plot that uses 89 wells and says it is unusual that the plot doesn’t show any small wells and is not log normal. It has to do with sampling size. Anybody who has spent anytime in this industry knows that as time progresses your information improves, the Eagleford has a history of no more than a few years. The gaps merely demonstrate there is more to be found simply because the very nature of naturally occurring things such as oil and gas reserves is to eventually fit a log normal distribution. That is what the concept of creaming curves is based on. Production from Eagleford is way too early to apply a creaming curve analysis.

In short, he has some points. The notion that all wells would do close to a million Boe EUR doesn’t fit with the results to date but what he fails to point out is it also doesn’t fit with what most companies are saying. He points to one company who claims 500,000 boe /well and then claims that is high but doesn’t actually point out that the vast majority of operators are suggesting 200,000 boe/well which is in line with his claims. And an important point is if you don’t take the failed wells out of the statistical analysis then your results are completely invalid. There will be wells that do not work for one reason or another (usually operator error but not always) but they should not show up in the analysis because they are never produced. If , on the other hand, you were looking at capital investment per boe returned then they need to be included. All in all a pretty poor statistical analysis to my mind.

This is the danger in believing everything you see in the press. Even from someone who has some pretty impressive credentials it isn't unheard of to see a politicized point made that can only be backed up by bad analysis of a subset of data. No wonder the public hasn't a proper view of the industry.
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Re: USGS Releases Global Oil & Gas Reserve Growth Estimates

Postby Graeme » Fri 07 Sep 2012, 01:32:51

Rockdoc, Thanks for your analysis. It's not clear though which paper you are referring to. I found this one. Was it the same one?

Eagle Ford Shale - An Early Look at Ultimate Recovery

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')ndividual forecasts of the estimated ultimate recovery (EUR) were made for more than 1,000 horizontal wells in the South Texas Eagle Ford shale trend and statistics were developed for EUR in the 10 primary counties where development is occurring. The study used rate vs. time plots and included all the producing wells in the trend which have decline data believed to be sufficient to project EUR. Normalized decline curves were developed for each county and distributions of EUR were produced. In addition, for a portion of the wells, correlations were made between EUR, frac size, horizontal length and the date of first production.

The results show that for the 10 county trend, the average and median EUR per well were 206,779 barrels of oil equivalent (BOE) and 160,519 BOE, respectively. Of the counties with more than 50 wells, the best are DeWitt (403,715 BOE) and Karnes (210,801 BOE). Live Oak, with only 28 wells averages 248,818 BOE. The normalized rate vs. time plots show minor hyperbolic behavior. In fact, for all the wells in the study, the normalized oil decline was 76% and the gas 60%, with hyperbolic exponents of .25 and .40, respectively. The wells have clearly become better since the start of horizontal drilling, but the average performance has not shown much improvement since mid-2010 even as the frac sizes became larger. The best well performance has generally come from wells with horizontal legs in the 4,000 to 5,500 ft. range.


Conclusions:

• Estimated ultimate recovery from decline curves of horizontal wells indicates an average EUR for the Eagle Ford shale of 206,800 BOE/well including an estimate of NGL.

• The best counties appear to be De Witt (403,715 BOE), Live Oak (248,818 BOE – limited well count) and Karnes (210,801 BOE).

• The normalized decline profiles of all established wells in 10 counties, suggests high initial decline rates and little hyperbolic nature.

• The per well EUR has not shown any general increase after mid-2010.

• There are only rough correlations of EUR to frac size and perforated length.

• Any reference to barrels-of-oil-equivalent (BOE) should include an explanation of the gas-to-oil conversion and how NGL is handled.
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Re: USGS Releases Global Oil & Gas Reserve Growth Estimates

Postby seahorse3 » Fri 07 Sep 2012, 11:39:53

RD, I have no reason to disagree that this guy did bad analysis. You conclude it is political. What would be his basis for being political? More specifically, it ifs political, who agenda is he pushing?
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Re: USGS Releases Global Oil & Gas Reserve Growth Estimates

Postby Plantagenet » Fri 07 Sep 2012, 11:49:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Graeme', '
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Eagle Ford Shale - An Early Look at Ultimate Recovery


The Eagle Ford Shale (and some other shales) are damaged by water injections during frakking-----the shale expands and reduces permeability when it gets wet.

These formations are performing much better when frakked without water*.

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*yes----the technology of frakking is evolving---there are now a couple of ways to frak without water.
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Re: USGS Releases Global Oil & Gas Reserve Growth Estimates

Postby rockdoc123 » Fri 07 Sep 2012, 11:51:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t's not clear though which paper you are referring to.


that is the paper.

One thing that is interesting is the comment made regarding lack of hyperbolic nature in the decline. It really isn't discussed in the paper so his evidence is unknown. What I can say is typical shale gas behavior is exponential decline followed by hyperbolic decline. The hyperbolic decline is the late life decline. Not sure there has been long enough production from Eagle Ford wells to reach the hyperbolic decline portion yet.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')D, I have no reason to disagree that this guy did bad analysis. You conclude it is political.


I don't think I made any conclusion as to why he has taken this point of view. I suspect he just has a bee in his bonnet with regards to shale gas reserves, believing that they are overstated and then trying to demonstrate that from generalized data. His analysis seems to be hampered by a lack of understanding as to how shale gas fracs work. This would not be atypical for someone who works for a State or Federal energy analysis group. Many have never worked in the industry and those that have may have never had any exposure to shale gas operations.

As with most things the truth lies somewhere between the crazed hype stock promoter stuff and the super pessimistic naysayer stuff. Critical reading of all of this information is required I think.
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Re: USGS Releases Global Oil & Gas Reserve Growth Estimates

Postby seahorse3 » Fri 07 Sep 2012, 12:24:13

RD, could you comment on Plant's post above that frakking works better without water?
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Re: USGS Releases Global Oil & Gas Reserve Growth Estimates

Postby Plantagenet » Fri 07 Sep 2012, 14:23:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse3', 'R')D, could you comment on Plant's post above that frakking works better without water?


I didn't say frakking works better without water. :roll:

I said in certain geologic formations like the Eagle Ford where water damages the permeability, waterless frakking works better.
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Re: USGS Releases Global Oil & Gas Reserve Growth Estimates

Postby seahorse3 » Fri 07 Sep 2012, 14:50:40

I would still like a comment from RD. I'm interested.
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Re: USGS Releases Global Oil & Gas Reserve Growth Estimates

Postby rockdoc123 » Fri 07 Sep 2012, 16:32:47

Plant is correct that in some cases if you have water sensitive clays in the shales (basically water gets inserted in the clay matrix and causes the clay to expand) a slick-water frac can be less than effective. I'm pretty sure this is a local phenomena because the Eagle Ford generally has a low clay fraction which makes it fraccable, hence the good results in most places (high initial production rates means that the frac worked so you can only use the slick-water frac doesn't work idea when the frac actually results in little to no production). It could be that what he is really pointing to with regards to using water is the fact that generally you leave some amount of frac fluid in the formation which can impede free flow of gas/oil. There are several things that can be done. The frac fluid can be energized with either Nitrogen or CO2 which usually results in better frac fluid returns. As well foamed fracs can improve on the problem with propent distribution/breakdown. In any event the technology is changing all the time. Hopefully I haven't been too confusing with this explanation.
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Re: USGS Releases Global Oil & Gas Reserve Growth Estimates

Postby Graeme » Fri 07 Sep 2012, 18:35:16

These figures released by Bloomberg clearly show that shale oil production has increased but what is not clear to me is just how long this will last.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')bout 300,000 barrels a day of Bakken oil is being shipped from North Dakota by rail, Al Monaco, Enbridge Inc.’s president, said in a July 11 presentation in Calgary. Some rail deliveries of Bakken are reaching Texas and Louisiana, Lee Klaskow, a Skillman, New Jersey-based analyst for Bloomberg Industries Research, said.

The Bakken formation, which stretches across parts of North Dakota, Montana and Saskatchewan, and the Eagle Ford formation in south Texas produce the majority of shale oil in the U.S., ahead of formations such as Niobrara in Wyoming and Colorado, Bone Spring in Texas and New Mexico and Monterey in California.

Eagle Ford produced about 283,000 barrels a day this June, up from about 98,000 barrels a day in June 2011 and no barrels in April 2008, according to the Railroad Commission of Texas, the state’s oil and gas regulator.


There is some indication here:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he capacity to transport light, sweet oil to the Gulf Coast from Cushing and inland shale formations will expand to more than 2 million barrels a day by the end of this year and 4.5 million by the end of 2014 from less than 500,000 barrels a day at the end of 2011, Klesse said yesterday.
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