[AgentR11]

Well, it would have to be someone who doesn't hate Obama, as any that stepped forward would have no doubt in their minds that they were insuring an Obama win.

I don't think either of those three would go there. My bet is that they'd rather coerce concessions from Romney this time around.

[Fishman]

Nope pstarr, not going to happen. As per Rumsfeld, you fight the war with the army you have, not with the one you wish you had. Hey, what's your view of women chosing to stay home for their family, slackards like the Dems state, or perhaps a different view?

[Pops]

So what would a candidate look like that could actually appeal to the middle 60% and leave the 20% on either end to stomp their feet and pout?

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'S')o what would a candidate look like that could actually appeal to the middle 60% and leave the 20% on either end to stomp their feet and pout?

[AgentR11]

The person you are looking for, is the one you guys failed to nominate for whatever reason.

Hillary Clinton.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'T')he person you are looking for, is the one you guys failed to nominate for whatever reason.

Hillary Clinton.

[AgentR11]

I note that you aren't suggesting an alternative...

[Cog]

There is no candidate that can appeal to the war-mongering Republicans, and the give-me-my-free-shit army in the Democratic party simultaneously.

[Lore]

George Clooney, he's smart, a good actor, lord knows its been a few election cycles since we had an actor and he certainly is a better one then the last one was. As good a qualification as most of these other jackanapes have.

This maybe sarcasm, but I'd bet putting anyone with a good ethical foundation as leader could do just as good, if not a better job, then our last several pretenders to the throne have done.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'T')here is no candidate that can appeal to the war-mongering Republicans, and the give-me-my-free-shit army in the Democratic party simultaneously.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '
')This maybe sachasm, but I'd bet putting anyone with a good ethical foundation as leader could do just as good, if not a better job, then our last several pretenders to the throne have done.

[Pops]

LOL snowedin!

You really think Hillary? The Third Way.
I didn't vote for her because I thought she would only invite the right to go on another 8 year hissy-fit. In fact I almost voted for McCain because I thought the way-right wasn't ready for a half-white president either.

Guess it didn't matter.

The centrists would at least manage BAU better. It would still be BAU but at least not the herk-jerky, left then right scizo disfunction we have now.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'T')here is no candidate that can appeal to the war-mongering Republicans, and the give-me-my-free-shit army in the Democratic party simultaneously.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '[')b]Enough of this pension to resurrect some sort of a dynasty here in the US. We seem to have this deep-seated longing to reestablish a monarchy in which the ghosts of rulers that we remember and liked can somehow be squeezed out of the genes of their immediate family.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '
')This maybe sachasm, but I'd bet putting anyone with a good ethical foundation as leader could do just as good, if not a better job, then our last several pretenders to the throne have done.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', 'H')e was arguably one of the most intelligent and grounded Presidents we ever had in the last century. Most of his concerns about our future are profectically coming true. Of course, most Americans are adverse to facts and truth where it upsets their comfort level. We would rather believe in actors, preachers and salesmen telling us what we want to hear.

[Sixstrings]

More on topic with this thread..

If you want a third party candidate to vote for, you may want to have a look at the Americans Elect group. It's an online peoples' primary. A non-partisan primary, whoever wins it will be on all the ballots.

Buddy Roemer is leading and looks like he'll be the Reform Party and Americans Elect candidate. It's a throwaway vote, but if you're just looking for a good man to vote for then Roemer is it. He has a lot of good things to say about getting money out of politics. He's a Republican, but seems non-partisan. He's on the Rachel Maddow show now and then and they agree on everything they talk about. Sounds like a Republican I could vote for.

I'm still voting Obama, but Roemer is my second choice. Here's the website if you want to participate in the caucus:

http://www.americanselect.org/

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', 'H')e was arguably one of the most intelligent and grounded Presidents we ever had in the last century. Most of his concerns about our future are profectically coming true. Of course, most Americans are adverse to facts and truth where it upsets their comfort level. We would rather believe in actors, preachers and salesmen telling us what we want to hear.