by SeaGypsy » Sun 19 Feb 2012, 17:06:14
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'r')epublicans are anti-science. Their platform denies global warming, is against reasonable population control, anti-environmental, desperate for unavailable energy, and against sensible national health policies. I find it curious one would lecture on medical issues?
PSTARR, you're right as far as the anti-science issue and the GOP.
However, the left is insane when it comes to economics. The idea that you can have endless redistributive programs and support unproductive behavior (like not working or paying federal taxes but wanting endless entitlements) is just as unworkable and unreasonable long term, as the GOP is about science denial.
So -- if you want the GOP to quit lecturing (unreasonably) about medical issues -- let's see the left quit lecturing (unreasonably) about endlessly increasing untenable giveaway programs and whiningly saying things like "shame shame shame" to anyone on the right who points out economic reality and wants to avoid becoming Greece.
Of course, THAT'S gonna happen...
And BTW, before you attack me as being selfish, I am personally providing work at a good living wage to three unemployed folks, who aren't afraid to do some work in exchange for a good wage -- mainly to help them out. And I would LOVE to see my tax money spent for high quality (effective) education K-12, college grants, AND retraining programs for adults -- educated people are more employable and more productive (generally).
There is always a gamble with 'retraining'/ upskilling investment, a percentage in any program will 'fall off the wagon'. On the other hand it has been widely proven that about 10% of adults are literacy impaired due to dyslexia alone, many of these can now use adaptive technologies to become far more capable and productive, sometimes with a quite minimal investment. On the other hand there are always people who fail to thrive in any system. It is not usually ok to just doink them on the head.
Capitalism has historically done best with unemployment between 5% & 8%. Below this band, skills dry up and it becomes very expensive to take on new hires. Above the band, unemployment creates a drag on the economy, people spend less, wages flatten.
We should remember that the social dynamic created under growth based economics is going to naturally have some serious fallout victims, many of whom may never become 'economically productive units' in a world where productivity is redefined altogether.
The left has itself stuck in a quandary right there. It cannot admit any more than the right can that there will be soon an end to growth, overall, if we are not already 'There'. There can be no admission publicly that things are actually utterly beyond control and the very foundations of our economies require urgent and utter re-evaluation.
There will need to be a Kibbutzim style evolution mandated by the welfare state at some point in the not too distant future. That or FEMA camp- prison- farms- debt and welfare bondage. Deep down I think both sides know that's what's really coming, it's in neither's interests to speak loudly of the real long term basis of the equation.