[BasilBoy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', 'B')asilBoy, thanks for the Psychology Today link, hadn't heard of Michael Mills.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'O')bviously 6 hasn't read the news on new attitude thread. Delete 1st sentence and it complies. Besides which it is not rubbish at all.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'm')aybe they were raptured up?

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', '[')b]Six, what he's proposing has nothing to do with “eugenics” (I think that word does not mean what you think it means). He's just talking about a cultural change that would value low consumption lifestyles, theory being that men do what we do to get laid. If getting laid meant riding a bicycle and gardening instead of conspicuously consuming, more men would do it.

[Sixstrings]

The article is also sexist.

Essentially he's blaming males' behavior on female sexuality, as if women could save the planet from men if only they'd just have sex with ecologically conscious guys.

That's just rubbish. First of all, women are equal they're out there working and using energy and driving SUV's same as men are. The state of the enviornment is not the fault of just men -- nor is it the fault of women because they marry "alpha males." What a rubbish article.

If you want to do an advertising campaign, then raise awareness in general but this approach, "using psychological tricks on women" is patently sexist. If the author is right and men are the source of the problem, then why not a ad campaign directed to men to change their behavior -- rather than this indirect route of convincing women to not reward the behavior.

[SeaGypsy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')
I'm talking about the article -- the author posits that evolution has made a mistake. He then suggests psychological "tricks" that should be deployed in order to supplant natural selection -- that's what eugenics is, replacing nature and artificially controlling human reproduction to get a desired outcome of the kind of people you want. Philosophically right away I call this article rubbish because natural selection works, you do not tinker with that.
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Who else other than government would pay for this massive psychological reprogramming advertising blitz? Yes it could be done, but it's profit that drives advertising. To put this author's ideas into practice it would have to come from government, would have to be a decades-long heavy advertising campaign, it would cost a lot of money and this just isn't something our government does -- our government let's people think for themselves, we're not North Korea we don't have a Propganda Bureau out there programming the populace.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'A')lready in some cities in the world, a well set up 'green' lifestyle is more attractive to more intelligent women, than a short sighted petro-lifestyle.

[SeaGypsy]

Firstly, your emphasis on sexism in the article is overblown:
http://drmillslmu.com/peakoil-4.htm (the full article).
(I'm not sure this guy expects to be taken seriously. I enjoy experimental writing, which I would class this as.)

Secondly, women play traditionally male power games these days, high power jobs, high consumption, phallic vehicle, multiple sexual partners. But this is still by far the exception rather than the norm.

My wife is a mad shopper, but in thrift shops. She is the second long term partner I have been with who likes to go through second hand stuff looking for designers she likes. Both these women have been able to build businesses reselling clothes. Her worst habit is pre-packaged processed food. Also disposable nappies. Babies are shockingly high impact. I throw out more junk in a day now than I used to throw out in 2 weeks on my own.

[PrestonSturges]

I think that the competition for mates created an instinctive resistance to cooperation. We spent millions of years cock-blocking each other, and that's instinctively how we try to succeed.

[dolanbaker]

[SolarDave]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'C')heap and safe coal and nuclear power.

[SolarDave]

As much as I like Pstarr's answer, I think we are witnessing the end of the Americal nightmare love affair with cars.

ZipCar
http://www.rideshareonline.com/
https://relayrides.com/
http://www.miller-mccune.com/culture-so ... sit-28068/

google: ride share

Prediction: The next generation will have lower car ownership.

Advice: Sell yer GM stock. It's peaked.

[AgentR11]

Natural selection has come up a few times here, but I would like to note...
1) natural selection currently is disabled, humans of reproductive age don't generally face much in the form of a survival threat.
2) humans need about 25 yrs of life to complete their reproductive cycle. We live into our 80s.
3) in addition, a past event greatly narrowed our genetic diversity, if Bob dies too early, a thousand others with genes nearly identical to Bob will survive and propagate.

What this thread is really about is social darwinism and propaganda, and a sexist version at that. Pretty slimy.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '1')) natural selection currently is disabled, humans of reproductive age don't generally face much in the form of a survival threat.

[Loki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Agent', 'n')atural selection currently is disabled.

[SolarDave]

AHA!

I am not imagining it:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20120405/D9TV0JIO4.html

I would bet that the time of day I commented on USED TO BE one of the most traveled times for the groups that are traveling less.

The times, they are a changin'

[AdTheNad]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 't')hat is some guy-on-gal fisting action on the way to the promised land. (lower left)