[babystrangeloop]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('babystrangeloop', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'D')on't worry about it.

[babystrangeloop]

The interesting thing about having a part ice-queen, part drama-queen personality is the drama queen half will shove your face in how stupid you look and then the ice queen part will stop paying attention to you.

[Cog]

I always read the threads from start to finish. Doesn't everyone?

Sometimes people have problems with knowing the truth and need to take a break from doom. Several members have disappeared for that exact reason. Ludi comes to mind for some reason reading this thread.

Perhaps babystrangeloop, you need to take a break from doom as well to re-evaluate your preps and addiction to doom. I'm trying to be your friend here.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'D')on't worry about it.

[Pops]

I've always had the idea that fossil fuel civilization was just a phase. Don't know if it was growing up doing Duck-n-Cover, too many issues of Mother Earth News or maybe it was the drugs, alcohol and KC and the Sunshine Band.

But yeah, even though I've achieved exactly the lifestyle I dreamt of when I was a little kid and have tuned it to be as resilient as reasonable I still obsess over the latest report or MSM article. I certainly don't yearn for a slate-wiper since I'd probably be a wipee nowadays, I don't have the hatred or at least contempt for humanity some seem to have. And because I bugged out as best I could years ago, there really is no advantage for me to see IT coming.

For a lot of people it seems like it's just a hobby like bird watching, nothing they change any facet of their lives for, just something to kill time between reruns of 3-1/2 Men
:^D

Every once in a while I get too much and swear it off for a while but I guess I haven't hit bottom yet. Although I guess like everyone else I want to find evidence my natural knee jerks are in the right direction, I find myself secretly hoping more and more to be wrong.

Oops, not a secret now...

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'D')on't worry about it.

[vision-master]

I've already went through the..........

Doomstead

Guns & ammo

Food stores thingy

Gas stockpiling

Scooters........ (90mpg)

Reduce debt thingy

Wood heat

Backup generator

Water storage

[vision-master]

Now I'm more in the acceptance spiritual phase of life here on this planet............

[babystrangeloop]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'I')'ve always had the idea that fossil fuel civilization was just a phase. Don't know if it was growing up doing Duck-n-Cover, too many issues of Mother Earth News or maybe it was the drugs, alcohol and KC and the Sunshine Band.

[vision-master]

What would the top be like?

[babystrangeloop]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'W')hat would the top be like?

[vaseline2008]

I embrace Peak Oil and welcome it. It will be the beginning of the Rebirth of the Human Race. Fear not for not all humans will die off. Humanity will continue on and evolve into a higher species. Humanity is in its sophomoric stage at the moment and once matured will blossom into something better (from a biological viewpoint, not ethical or moral).

The ingredients for the next recipe of humanity will include:
DNA Biotechnology (life span increases leading to immortality)
Nanotechnology (however in the future biotech and nanotech will be on a collision course to see which is better)
Robotics (machines to serve mankind so humans will have more time to innovate)
Artificial Intelligence (to increase the intelligence of the human brain capacity)
Exponential technological advances (I am aware of Dr. Tom Murphy's writings and agree with him)

You may equate my rants as to those of Hitler's however the trajectories of the above "ingredients" will ultimately shape the outcome of the human race as we know it today. Need proof?

Craig Venter is the first to sequence DNA to create his own unique lifeform (bacteria, but you gotta start somewhere). In the future writing DNA code will be as easy as writing computer code, after all it is just code.

Scientists have found that the Planarian worm (asexual version) has the ability to become immortal.

Robotics technology is ever increasing, in NY there is a fully automated computer chip factory that is being built at this time.

The autonomous car is already invented, just not implemented.

A 17 year old student has won an award for designing a nanobot that will in the future help eradicate cancer cells.

Computer chip implants in humans are already being tested with success.

Thought control games are already on the market. Reading a person's thoughts are already being investigated.

IBM announced advances in quantum computing. Lockheed Martin has purchased a commercially available quantum computer in 2011.

Humanity is becoming less and less religious.

Robotics will allow fully automated production of everything from food to consumer products. DNA manipulation will eradicate disease, increase human lifespan and possibly immortality. The ability to produce new lifeforms that will assist the next human race will be reality.

The top of humanity, the 1% (even smaller perhaps, 0.01%) are the ones who are are inventing and innovating. The rest of us just wallow in their successes. The top has the power, knowledge, military might (humanity now has more than enough weapons to kill off the entire species on a whim, not just nukes...but combine all weapons and you get the picture), and the will to make it happen. Bilderberg Group to name just one organization of people planning for the future of humanity, their plan, not yours.

Look at the 1% and what do you see? You see the best of humanity (not all but the majority). They are the most intelligent, clever/smart, beautiful (subjective of course but you understand), healthiest (Magic Johnson 20 years HIV+ and alive?), strongest, most athletic, and most creative (insert any pop idol you like here). Food and shelter alone is not enough for humanity. Humanity needs arts and entertainment as well as science to make a well rounded species.

As maniacal, out of this world, evil (really do I sound like a Hitler lunatic?), or strange my rants seem, I ask you to open your mind a bit and let your imagination run wild. I have been called Orwellian and compared to Hitler but I am under no delusion that my genes are the cream of the crop, quite the opposite. I accept my limitations and live life accordingly. All I have stated above in true, but don't take my word for all of this, use all the tools at your disposal to research and come up with your own ideas and thoughts. I won't do the research for you, after all I am only human.

Enjoy life while you can, live each day as if it was your last. We can't save everyone.

[babystrangeloop]

Since this thread is so utterly de-railed I will reiterate:

But seriously, do other people feel that their obsessing on peak oil news could be a dangerous addiction harming their lives and what to do about it?

If your answer is "it doesn't bother me" please be considerate enough to realize you are not answering my question and your off-topic input is not valuable to me. Thanks.

[Pops]

When the negative impact outweighs the benefit the only thing to do is stop altogether if you can't be moderate.
I say that as someone who has had to stop smoking and drinking and even borrowing because I didn't do them in moderation.

How to know? I guess when you are sitting at the machine knowing you should be doing something more valuable or that later you're mad at yourself because you sat at the machine instead of doing something else or maybe even when you are doing something else you're emotionally detached because you are wishing you were back at the machine.

[babystrangeloop]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'W')hen the negative impact outweighs the benefit the only thing to do is stop altogether if you can't be moderate.
I say that as someone who has had to stop smoking and drinking and even borrowing because I didn't do them in moderation.

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('babystrangeloop', 'S')ince this thread is so utterly de-railed I will reiterate:

But seriously, do other people feel that their obsessing on peak oil news could be a dangerous addiction harming their lives and what to do about it?

If your answer is "it doesn't bother me" please be considerate enough to realize you are not answering my question and your off-topic input is not valuable to me. Thanks.

[Pops]

I don't use groups, not that I haven't tried or that I have some great will but simply because I'm too arrogant to actually believe someone else has walked in my shoes - sad but true.

The First Step for me is to admit powerlessness, the only way to get there was to try with all my power to prove I have control. When my failure to be in control resulted in enough discomfort I finally had to admit I had no control. The bargaining, denial etc, don't go away but at least I can honestly give myself a simple answer to:
'I'll just have one..."

i.e.:

"No you'll have just as many as it takes to get right where you were when you quit the last time."
Once I actually believe that all I need to do is remember the last time whenever I want to light up 'just one' or whatever. Way different from 'Just say no.'

Don't know how that translates to scouring the news but I guess abstinence could work as well there as anywhere if it has bad results for you personally.

[Cog]

I hope you take this comment in a constructive manner and not one that is mean-spirited.

But if a person can't handle an internet addiction to doomer porn then how in the hell will they be able to handle real doom associated with peak oil? The violence, starvation, and the poverty that is to come on the downside of global oil production.

I have always found that action beats sitting around stewing about the future every time.

[babystrangeloop]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '&')quot;No you'll have just as many as it takes to get right where you were when you quit the last time."

[Quinny]

Basically apart from news, sports and the odd movie the tv is pretty shit, so rather than sit at home watching the TV I prefer to browse forums including PO. Having said that in my experience British TV is not as bad as in the US so it's no wonder the site tends to be US biased.

I tend to check in at least once a day on PO and a few other sites I visit, I find it entertaining, informative and interesting. I used to enjoy the banter with Mr Bill who I, although disagreeing in fundamental terms with him, learned quite a bit from.

I got involved with Permaculture because of PO, and it's re-awakened my interest in politics, though I think the predicament we're in is beyond party politics. My ex-wife thought I was not just an addict, but a lunatic who had lost his mind. My girlfriend is supportive and agrees with my analysis, but just thinks 'things aren't right' and other issues are involved whereas I believe overpopulation and PO / resources are the main cause of the troubled times we live in.

Some might call me an addict, but it doesn't seem to cause me any problems, and if I can't get on Internet for a few days (very rarely happens) I just go football, fishing or pub. If the site disappeared, I would miss it but it wouldn't be the end of the world.