by Sixstrings » Sat 03 Mar 2012, 23:06:58
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KingM', 'A')nd yet through all of this crap, the country never broke apart. Why now, with Mexico happier, healthier, wealthier, more educated, and more democratic than ever before in its history do you think it will break apart? That simply doesn't make sense.
You have a point there.
I think popular revolution is really the *only* thing that can bring about national government collapse. Absent that, living conditions just getting crappy, disorganization, that doesn't collapse a government. Because in truth a government can do nothing at all for its people other than extract wealth and fill El Presidente's Swiss bank account -- this can continue indefinitely unless and until the people unify in popular mass revolt (velvet or otherwise).
Examples.. velvet revolutions in Eastern Europe, mostly velvet revolution in Egypt, more fragmented mass popular uprising in Syria right now.
Going further back, situations like Cuba -- rebel movement grows and grows until it is more powerful than the government, but with Mexico these are just cartels not a unified political ideology. They don't want to govern, they want to sell coke.
Places in Africa.. horrible mess for pretty much ever, yet there is no collapse -- *normal* for them looks like collapse to us. Yet their governments continue, other than coups.
And finally North Korea.. utterly horrible conditions there, but the government has complete and total control so there is no mass revolt and therefore no collapse. You could go further back in history, what about Ireland in the potato famine. That was grisly stuff, yet the Crown didn't collapse.