[Cloud9]

I am and posted off the cuff. My mistake. I make a lot of them.

inclusive: a. broad in orientation or scope. b. covering or intending to cover all items...

[The Practician]

what, I'm not allowed to be a doomer and a pervert?

[babystrangeloop]

Missing option: war-monger

[Cog]

I'm the sort of terrorist who intends to be on the winning side of the revolution. Whichever side that is.

[SeaGypsy]

Terrorism is political violence/ an adherence to a belief in achieving political goals through acts of violence towards the State or it's Citizens. The last 'terrorist' on this site, by this definition, was reverseengineer. He hasn't been heard from in about 2.5 years, he was a fast crasher looking forward to Lynching Wall Street.

[vaseline2008]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I')'m the sort of terrorist who intends to be on the winning side of the revolution. Whichever side that is.

[Beery1]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The Practician', 'w')hat, I'm not allowed to be a doomer and a pervert?

[Beery1]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vaseline2008', 'A')ll throughout history it has been shown that the ones who "have" wins.

[Rod_Cloutier]

I'm the '1984' Winston Smith sort of terrorist- I commit massive thought crimes on a daily basis.

[vtsnowedin]

I don't know as I am a terrorist unless your trying to take what is mine and then you might come to that conclusion. Let us consider two urban dwellers when the crash comes. One loses his median job and his bank accounts disappear overnight, and the other being a wall street player cashes out his hundred million dollars into gold just in time and heads for his getaway with buxom intern/administrative assistant in tow. The first, Joe-six pack starts looking for food and joins the riots that insue as his best option but soon realises that he has to move out from the center to get to stores and buildings that haven't already been sacked. He starts working in my direction one house at a time but has to stay ahead of the wave to get anything good.
The bankster now has to deal with two and a half tons of gold plus a very whinny female. not quite the way he imagined it. First he tries to stuff it all in a Lincoln navigator but finds in the new reality that it just draws rocks thrown at every opportunity and he really needs an intact windshield so he soon trades half the gold for a unassuming ford panel van that can take the load and not scream rich bastard to all that see it coming.
These two each in his own way are going to progress towards me where I am waiting for their arrival. When Joe-six pack gets here he is going to want to do to me what he has done to everybody he has left behind him. I will take issue with that and if lucky will put a bullet between his eyes. The Bankster might show up with some of his gold left and want to buy me out. I might offer him some food for his van and if he won't take the bargain send him on his way. The intern might choose to stay where the food is and make her own deals. If bankster was foolish enough to try to take my stuff by force he would get a bullet in the head as well.
Doomer porn I know but who has a more likely outcome to $250 dollar oil?

[Beery1]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '.')..When Joe-six pack gets here he is going to want to do to me what he has done to everybody he has left behind him. I will take issue with that and if lucky will put a bullet between his eyes... If bankster was foolish enough to try to take my stuff by force he would get a bullet in the head as well.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Beery1', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Somehow I think these folks will likely end up either very disappointed or messily dead.

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Beery1', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '.')..When Joe-six pack gets here he is going to want to do to me what he has done to everybody he has left behind him. I will take issue with that and if lucky will put a bullet between his eyes... If bankster was foolish enough to try to take my stuff by force he would get a bullet in the head as well.

[radon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'W')hen Joe-six pack gets here ...

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('radon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'W')hen Joe-six pack gets here ...

[Shaved Monkey]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Beery1', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vaseline2008', 'A')ll throughout history it has been shown that the ones who "have" wins.

[Cloud9]

Same could b said for the Afgans.

[vaseline2008]

LOL, I knew someone would come up with the Vietnamese. They "had" more reason to fight along with better guerrilla warfare strategy, same goes for the Afghans. As for the Romonovs, well they didn't have as much as they thought. Thanks for proving me right.

[SeaGypsy]

It takes two minutes to find multiple camera shots showing definite perfect sniper opportunities, both before sunset & after.

Then he killed the lights.

Cops had clear shots in daylight with at least some contact with hostages & the terrorist.

The cops then had two hours of night vision which the gunman did not have.

I cannot for the life of me figure why this guy was not popped alone.

[KaiserJeep]

Cops are people too, not automatons. There is a flip side to this coin.

After 10+ years experience in the US Army as a Military Policeman in Germany and the USA, my brother joined the Wisconsin State Patrol 20+ years ago. He went to the academy then rode around in a patrol car with his training sergeant. Within 2 years he was fired for failure to draw his weapon and use deadly force in accordance with policy.

The circumstances were he was one of several officers enforcing weight limits on heavy trucks. He would stop a truck and ask for the paperwork that said that they had been weighed within the state. He would always call for backup whenever he did so, in accordance with policy.

Three times when backup arrived, they found him involved in a fistfight with a truck driver. The first two times, they reprimanded him and gave him remedial training, plus desk duty until all visible evidence of the fistfight had healed. The third time, they fired him for failure to draw his weapon and make an arrest in accordance with policy.

20+ years later he can finally discuss this and says they were entirely justified. He spent most of that 20+ years as a truck driver in Wisconsin, and married to a State Patrol dispatcher. However he spent a few years before changing his mind bitterly complaining that he was fired for "not being trigger happy enough".

I'm of the opinion that he should never have been a cop. He was always looking for a fight when we were growing up. But a cop has to enforce policy, including department policy about the use of deadly force, and not indulge his own whims. If the internal investigation in Sydney agrees with what you saw, the on-scene commander should be disciplined, or possibly fired.

Note however that sniper is a specialty skill and requires special equipment. If there was not time to get the trained person and long gun on site for the takedown, then there are extenuating circumstances. There have been many incidents here in the USA where a sniper was needed, but the local police force had none, and had to wait hours for one from the State Police to do the job. The prime cause of such problems is an inadequate police budget.