[SeaGypsy]

please read the thread before commenting Dorlomin, it's not that long.
What was left behoind of the British in these places? Their Legal Systems. Where do they get Legal advice and send their executives to college?

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'p')lease read the thread before commenting

[SeaGypsy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'H')a. That's funny. It's got nothing to do with bloody England either. England was simply the first bit of land these folks I am hinting at got control over.
Illuminati, only in the sense of having taken from certain so named traditional belief systems, but it aint the Masons. Britain was always bloody poor until modern times. Even when it ruled the world, it also had millions of children working down the coal mines, within.

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'S')imply put, the British were never defeated and never truly gave up their empire, merely put on a show of such in a move essentially about consolidating resources and regrouping. The opposite of what the ordinary version of history tells us about the empire.

[SeaGypsy]

I am of German and Irish blood, born in the USA but raised in Australia.
Now if I go start my own version of OWS and flog the opposition, is that achievement got to wave a national flag? If I achieve it by use of Queen's Counsel in the Privy Council, I have won and changed the law of the world for 98% of what matters, the bit with money. I have just reinforced British Authority in Law. Doesn't mean a damn thing about Britain as a country per-se. Do you get the difference?

[SeaGypsy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'I') would love Praj to comment on this madcap theory with supposedly no basis in fact? Any ideas Prajeshbahat?

[KingM]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'I') am of German and Irish blood, born in the USA but raised in Australia.
Now if I go start my own version of OWS and flog the opposition, is that achievement got to wave a national flag? If I achieve it by use of Queen's Counsel in the Privy Council, I have won and changed the law of the world for 98% of what matters, the bit with money. I have just reinforced British Authority in Law. Doesn't mean a damn thing about Britain as a country per-se. Do you get the difference?

[SeaGypsy]

Listen buddy I have lost patience with you. I am requesting you politely to vacate my thread starting right now. I am also reporting your post to the admin and requesting the delete the relevant garbage in your posts elsewhere in this thread. I simply do not like you. I can smell you from here I don't need a single word from you to know what and who you are. OK?
So goodbye sweetheart.

[KingM]

And they're going to ban me for saying your premise is ridiculous? I don't think so.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'I') would love Praj to comment on this madcap theory with supposedly no basis in fact? Any ideas Prajeshbahat?

[SeaGypsy]

Pops, do a little backreading if you like, it's personal ok.

[SeaGypsy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KingM', 'A')nd they're going to ban me for saying your premise is ridiculous? I don't think so.

[SeaGypsy]

Anyone who agrees with PrestonKing's menage et toi is welcome to leave this thread baffled, or come up with a plausible deniabiity based on some kind of facts. Clearly nobody who has grasped my premise, which is essentially that it's really only .00000000001(ish)% that have any real control, they are farmed amongst the elite British establishments of power and that they don't give a rats about England/ but they hate the USA/ has any argument to derail this pattern of perception.

The 1% is a facade, a meaningless number in reality pulled out of thin air.
I am having a solid go at putting up another idea. Preston and King can just tongue poke and name call in efense of their America as King perception, clearly showing they have not grasped the premise, or that if they have, it is too inconvenient to tackle on fact/ thus attack the messenger.

Praj is in India. Clearlykeeps up with what is happening here and puts in some fairly high worth thoughts IMO. But he does not engage conversationally. He acts like this is a university he was employed by to lecture his students, not a community of thinking and talking in public, sharing a conversation. Sorry but that is just plain rude.

[AgentR11]

I'm just not getting why I'm supposed to think they hate the USA... I could go with the idea of them taking excessive advantage of the USA, but as a willfully accepted kind of advantage. Sorta like pointing viking raiders at a village you want removed, and yelling "pillage and cuties" over there. We proceed to blow stuff up, take great gun-cam videos, making discovery channel shows from the footage recorded by harpoon missiles, and watch our troops drive around in tanks, bangin out the heavy metal and shooting random Iraqi (hopefully)combatants. Good stuff. The Brits didn't make us like this stuff. The Brits didn't make us build the interstate highway system; heck we were the price setters of oil when we built that thing.

So revenge... nah.
Taking advantage... absolutely.

[SeaGypsy]

To a very old person; there is no greater satisfaction than watching those who took something precious from you have to sacrifice their sons at your altar. To me it's clear as day. Exploitation. Dead young Americans by the score. The US in fundamental tatters and no way out. Our old buddies in NewKingland (China) are going to look after us and ours just fine, so screw America, make 'em work for what they've got until they can work no more.
Make sure it looks like we are cow towing to the USA and Israel so they can cop the blame when their 'dream' hits the windscreen.

[SeaGypsy]

If my premise is correct; history speaking for itself and filling in the blanks, I am going to make the following predictions/

1/ The USA will continue to be embroiled in M/E regional politics, in a military and very expensive capacity, regardless of who wins the next 3 presidential elections.

2/ 1 will only end when the USM runs out of gas.

3/ 2 will never happen.

4/ The USA will be forced to become a ration state, which will be an unbelievable mess, rendering the USA a fully 3rd world basket case.

5/ The so called 99% will find out what the real 70% have always known.

6/ Cambridge and Oxford will be the only thriving English language universities of any import.

7/ Most of the students will be Asian.

8/ All of this is going down in the next 7- 10 years.

[KingM]

Can anyone decipher this?

[SeaGypsy]

Ok what is it 4th go?

The Occupiers got me thinking about percentages, I always had, but thought a bit more about it. Like boiling the soup down until there's just the base.

What I found surprised me but did not surprise me. There are very very few individuals in a truly royal level of power anywhere in the world. Most billionaires work 120 hour weeks. Everyone is serving someone, yet at the top there has to be someone being served. Why is that so hard to understand?

[AgentR11]

I think we get that you feel there are a very very few at the top, above even the regular billionaire types. But its problematic for us to go further with the discussion because we don't know exactly who you mean. If there are a very few, then they have names. But you aren't typing a name for us; and I'm not sure I buy the premise itself well enough for me to even think about guessing who you might think the High Lord World Emperor is...

[SeaGypsy]

If I told you, I might have to kill you, which presents some difficulty with my current resources