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Was Scrooge Right (Revisited)?

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Re: Was Scrooge Right (Revisited)?

Unread postby Pretorian » Wed 28 Dec 2011, 21:03:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'W')ell what if he is not all-powerful, what if he is not a he but a she, it or they, what what if it's one of those 30-40 000 deities that didn't get to be worshiped much and is /are pissed as hell. You might be willing to reconsider the molten lead option I'd say.


Why refer to her as a God if she's not all-powerful? Just because she created this mess doesn't mean we have to worship her.



Because god does not have to be all-powerful. Definitions of the word " god" existed way , way before Jehovah/Christ/etc were created out of Zoroastrianism/Egyptian deities and philosophies , so it's incorrect to leave monopoly on god business to Judeo-Christians.
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Re: Was Scrooge Right (Revisited)?

Unread postby mlit » Thu 29 Dec 2011, 14:44:49

The population calculation has had me thinking as of course it can't be right so let's try it with a lower number and think this through.

1843 -- 1 (world population 1.2 billion)
1863 3 3 1 total 1843 ancestors
1883 3 9 4 1843 ancestors
1903 3 27 18
1923 3 81
1943 3 243
1963 3 729
1983 2 1458 (2 is considered replacement rate of birth but our offspring count doubles)
2003 2 2916 (world populaton 6.2 billion about 5 times 1843)
5467 total
5346 perhaps living (1943 through 2003 births) little less than 98%

So what is wrong with this calculation - 1 person has 5346 descendants alive today and I'm sure you could find 5346 (Or more) people alive today who could trace there lineage to the same one person in 1843

But I'm sure those same 5346 people could also trace lineage to many more alive in 1843 as each set of off spring had to include another family tree

Eliminating Tiny Tim would not cause the rest of the families that would eventually join to produce offspring to cease producing.
The genetic make up might be different(Eugenics) but total numbers would probably only be reduced by 5 or 6

So even if I had used the higher birth rates which I'm also sure you could find plenty of real life examples if you hunted for, the number while impressive does not mean eliminating that one start point would reduce the population by that number.
(Sneaking in a post from work so may have lots of spelling and math error)
An Optimist is eventually wrong, A Pessimist is eventually right.
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Re: Was Scrooge Right (Revisited)?

Unread postby Pretorian » Thu 29 Dec 2011, 16:25:44

you really need a poll for this thread
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Re: Was Scrooge Right (Revisited)?

Unread postby KingM » Thu 29 Dec 2011, 22:42:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'y')ou really need a poll for this thread


Can you do basic math?

a.) Yes
b.) No
c.) Monkey
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