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Re: The 1% are taking your lunch

Unread postby AgentR11 » Wed 21 Dec 2011, 00:29:20

I dunno, I handed a clerk my little plastic card and he dumped food on me. I think there was some bank magic involved, but it resulted in me getting lunch. Which was kinda hard to eat cause I have a cold and all food looks like Zombie Plague to me at the moment...
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Re: The 1% are taking your lunch

Unread postby Roy » Wed 21 Dec 2011, 05:45:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ur corporations today have lost that insight through off-shoring and automation while paying lower wages, yet expecting to charge more for their products.


The corporation I work for formerly manufactured clothing here in the US. Now we have a factory in China.

99% of the remaining American employees where I work, including me, can't afford our products. The top folks at my company travel the world, fly first class, stay in 5 star hotels, utilize limousine service whenever they have to travel by car, rack up huge cell phone bills (like more than my gross monthly salary) and don't even bat an eye... Unless requests are made to replace vital equipment; then I get "we need to control expenses".

In my position I see the wanton waste by the top people and their demands for austerity from everyone else. It aggravates me, yet, in spite of the 'improving economy' noted by Obiwan, there just aren't many decent jobs to replace the one I've got which pays well above the median income in this area.

And at my current salary, almost double what I was making in 1999, I feel as though my std of living is actually lower right now than it was then.

Yeah, I saw this crap coming too; from the time I read "The Population Bomb" in 5th grade (didn't understand all of it but I got the gist), to the time I discovered PO and this website.

And yes, it's pretty clear that the 1% feels entitled to their loot and they use their propaganda arm, the Ministry of Truth (made of up US MSM) to convince us that the current morass is really the fault of the "dems" or the "reps", that the Tea Party fiscal conservatives are actually angry white racists, and that the OWS folks pointing out the corruption/collusion between the 1% and our bought and paid for CONgress, are actually dirty stinking hippy moochers.

Most people seem to lack the drive or interest to learn the truth and will reject the facts at every opportunity in favor of the happy, yet blatantly false narrative of progress and 'getting America back on track'. I've had people tell me the recession is actually a creation of the media and everything is fine. I've sat in a houseful of union workers (who make about 2x what their non-union counterparts earn in blue collar trades) tell me why I should vote republican -- irony?

Yes the 1% is eating our lunch and that pattern began in earnest under Reagan who rolled back taxes on the upper income folks. Through the power of compounding and the exponential function, the wealth inequality in this country has begun to exceed levels commonly associated with banana republics.

And you are absolutely correct in your premise SH, that if you don't hold it you don't own it.
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Re: The 1% are taking your lunch

Unread postby seahorse3 » Wed 21 Dec 2011, 10:24:34

Yes Roy you understood the premise of the thread, which was if you don't possess something you don't own it. As you understood, this was not a fold and silver thread. It's interesting to me how many people believed it was a gold/silver thread and then got into tangents about the old etc never realizing this is advice for all, especially the young who have not been burned in life which is simple, if you don't possess something you don't own it. Including hose electronic dollars supposedly sitting in your bank account. In the depression they buried money in jars for good reason- they too learned the hard lesson if you don't possess something you don't own it. Years ago, the first of the recent bank failures was ANB innmy area. As a lawyer I personally dealt with people who lost their savings and businesses over that failure. For example, businesses that used lines of credit to make payroll or other expenses lost those lines of credit overnight. They couldn't make payrolls, couldn't pay bills and shut down. Many individuals had more in the bank than they were insured for and lost lots of money. Many big companies lost money, even churches bc they had accts in excess if insured limits. One guy sold his business the day before ANB shut down. He had millions in a single acct and lost all of it, a lifetime if work. This isn't a gold and silver thread. This is a pull your head out of your ass thread and don't get burned
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Re: The 1% are taking your lunch

Unread postby Revi » Wed 21 Dec 2011, 11:00:35

I would add to that if you can't hold it you can't have it. You will have to guard your gold and silver, or leave it in a bank safe deposit box and hope they don't go down.

There is not going to be any easy way through what's about to happen.
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Re: The 1% are taking your lunch

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 21 Dec 2011, 11:10:40

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Re: The 1% are taking your lunch

Unread postby ObiWan » Wed 21 Dec 2011, 16:43:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'O')y! Obiwankanobi is Shortywanthisbrainee.


lol - I was figuring the same thing - SHORTY! :lol:


An inside joke of some sort? At the new guys expense? Okay, I'm game. Who is shorty, and what does he/she have to do with the 1% taking someone's lunch?
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Re: The 1% are taking your lunch

Unread postby rangerone314 » Wed 21 Dec 2011, 21:16:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The Practician', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('basil_hayden', 'A')s an early member of the X generation, what is this "lunch" thing that you speak of? Never seen it, never planned to see it.


Yeah, and why should we care about your precious gold or silver, anyway? what was it exactly you planned to do with it? swim around in it like scrooge Mcduck?

I don't know about you, but when my short-based positions make a killing in 2012-Q1, I will have a small room where I can swim around in bars of silver. Then I'll make silver bullets in case I have to shoot werewolves in addition to zombies.
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Re: The 1% are taking your lunch

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 21 Dec 2011, 22:56:17

Your time will be short.
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