[dbruning]

When you think about it, we reallllllly need to lose some convenience in order to save a little extra for the future.

[Rod_Cloutier]

Maybe so! When you consider the energy required to manufacture the dishwasher, heat and pump the water, and the electricity to run the dishwasher. Not to mention the cost to mine and refine the metals for the cutlery and fire the machine to mould the ceramics- it might very well be a net positive for everyone to stop using normal dishes and switch to disposibles?

[Lore]

The conundrum is a sustainable future is one in which there will be fewer jobs. It is antithetical to the capitalist growth system by which all forms of human endeavor are now valued and compensated for. Until the very nature of human beings is altered and they treasure the less tangible things in life as opposed to physical property and adolescent leisure, this will not change, or is it likely to.

[vision-master]

All things must pass...

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', 'T')he conundrum is a sustainable future is one in which there will be fewer jobs. It is antithetical to the capitalist growth system by which all forms of human endeavor are now valued and compensated for. Until the very nature of human beings is altered and they treasure the less tangible things in life as opposed to physical property and adolescent leisure, this will not change, or is it likely to.

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dbruning', '[')img]http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/316478_2122923707360_1073861966_31929360_1827578363_n.jpg[/img]

When you think about it, we reallllllly need to lose some convenience in order to save a little extra for the future.

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', '
')Its a metaphor for 250 years of engineering progress.

[Newfie]

The same thing the Easter Islander's did when they cut down the last palm.

[dbruning]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')aybe so! When you consider the energy required to manufacture the dishwasher, heat and pump the water, and the electricity to run the dishwasher. Not to mention the cost to mine and refine the metals for the cutlery and fire the machine to mould the ceramics- it might very well be a net positive for everyone to stop using normal dishes and switch to disposibles?

[careinke]

There are biodegradable "plastic" tableware. It is made out of cellulose, and is just as good, though more expensive, than traditional plastic ware.

[dinopello]

I recall moving into an apartment in college, getting an order of fried chicken and sides with my roommates and we realized they didn't give us utensils and we had no kitchenware. We ate the drumsticks first and used the bone to scoop up slaw and mashed potatos. Bonin' the slaw, we called it. I dislike plastic utensils anyway. Rather use disposable chopsticks -made in usa-

[Newfie]

I heard somewhere that China had banned wood chopsticks because they were not reusable and their use was leading to deforestation.

Urban legend?

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'I') heard somewhere that China had banned wood chopsticks because they were not reusable and their use was leading to deforestation.

Urban legend?

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dbruning', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')aybe so! When you consider the energy required to manufacture the dishwasher, heat and pump the water, and the electricity to run the dishwasher. Not to mention the cost to mine and refine the metals for the cutlery and fire the machine to mould the ceramics- it might very well be a net positive for everyone to stop using normal dishes and switch to disposibles?

[Newfie]

Good grief, lick it and lay it on the counter.

Really, we don't have a dish washer and things work just fine.

We have a cabin with running water, I run up the hill to get a bucket and come back. A little dip i'll do ya.

Long term cruisers on short water get by well with a water budget of under a gallon a day. One guy says "Use all you want, just use it out of a spray bottle."

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'G')ood grief, lick it and lay it on the counter.

"

[kublikhan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'Y')es truly amazing, in only 250 years we have developed something that will continue to hurt the environment for thousands of years, all for less than thirty minutes of use.

However, I think the plastic fresh produce bags are even a greater accomplishment.

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'G')ood grief, lick it and lay it on the counter.

"

[Serial_Worrier]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'T')he same thing the Easter Islander's did when they cut down the last palm.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'T')he same thing the Easter Islander's did when they cut down the last palm.