[alokin]

I seldom post, but this makes me quite a tiny bit nervous..
Let's think positive: it was really a faction of the Iranian government and Mr. A doesn't really lead the strings. But what would this faction think to achieve with this act? IMO it is unlikely that they all want to commit suicide.
Or the US brought this plot only up to warn Iran.
In this case (and in other cases too) the Iranians would maybe be better off stopping their nuclear programme. First, I doubt that they can impress Israel with their bomb very much, they have the finest stuff available. Could this bomb really do something what some dirty secret sevice jobs couldn't do? And this to a fraction of the price. Second this plant is in a seismic active area and apparently it is crap. We don't really need a second Fukushima.

BTW let this region be what it is, a holy mess, but stay in your country and solve your very own problems!

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alokin', 'I')n this case (and in other cases too) the Iranians would maybe be better off stopping their nuclear programme.

[Oakley]

Legally the Saudi embassy is not US territory, but Saudi territory, so blowing it up would be an attack against the Saudi's and not the US.

Secondly, who really believes these thwarting of plots reports. Most of them are US government people getting some dope to go along with a plan that the US government comes up with so they can then arrest someone for plotting against the US.

When will people wake up and realize that it is our own government that is our enemy and we need to get rid of as much of it as is possible by voting in people like Ron Paul who sees government for the anti-humanity scam that it has become.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ctober 11, 2011
The Department of State alerts U.S. citizens of the potential for anti-U.S. actions following the disruption of a plot, linked to Iran, to commit a significant terrorist act in the United States. This Travel Alert expires on January 11, 2012.
An Iranian-born U.S. citizen, working on behalf of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Qods Force ? designated by the Treasury Department in 2007 for its support of terrorism ? is suspected of conspiring to assassinate the Saudi Arabian Ambassador to the United States. The U.S. government assesses that this Iranian-backed plan to assassinate the Saudi Ambassador may indicate a more aggressive focus by the Iranian Government on terrorist activity against diplomats from certain countries, to include possible attacks in the United States.

U.S. citizens residing and traveling abroad should review the Department's Worldwide Caution and other travel information when making decisions concerning their travel plans and activities while abroad. U.S. citizens are encouraged to enroll in the Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP). U.S. citizens without internet access may enroll directly at the nearest U.S. Embassy or U.S. Consulate. By enrolling, U.S. citizens make it easier for the embassy/consulates to contact them in case of emergency.

Up-to-date information on security can also be obtained by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll-free in the United States and Canada or, for callers outside the United States and Canada, on a regular toll line at 1-202-501-4444. These numbers are available from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays).

[Quinny]

Sorry Cloud, but I hope you are just being sarcastic here. I tend to respect your views, but if you are really suggesting that guns are being sold to Mexican cartels to allow 'the left' to push for stricter gun laws I am afraid you have totally lost the plot.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'T')here's oil in them thar sands. We have now become what we have purported to hate. Think about it. We are selling guns to the Mexican cartels by the truck load to destabilize the Mexican government and murder its people so that the left wingers here in the United States can push for stricter gun laws and shut down gun shows.We have upended the rule of law. We have suspended the most fundamental right of the accused, a trial by jury. We have a caped crusader in the White House that now deals out vigilante justice. This president has created a tool to be used against the American people.

Tools are not to be taken lightly. Consider for a moment the lowly hammer, a tool designed to drive nails. Once created it makes an excellent weapon. In gifted hands, it can extract the most desired confession.

For those in power, the Constitution is nothing but a scrap of paper. We the people have no rights and no protection. We live in a lawless state.

[Oneaboveall]

There are a few posting I'd like to respond to so here goes..
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', 'S')trange, O knew about this for some time but this comes out just as it looks like Holder is getting slammed for Fast and Furious. Wag the Dog?

[PrestonSturges]

Funny thing is, it's the Iranian physicists from their nuclear weapons program who have been getting bumped off routinely with C4, probably by Israel.

As they drive to work, a motorbike with 2 riders pulls up alongside, and the bike passenger slaps a couple pounds (?) of C4 to the drivers side window or roof. I don't know if it's detonated with a short fuse/timer or by remote control. Bulletproof glass wouldn't stop that. Not sure if they've bothered with shaped charges.

I think I've seen reports of at least 4 scientists assassinated this way.

[Fishman]

Sorry Six, Palestine et al calls for the destruction of Israel. No small amount of land will settle it. Instead of wars in Iraq and Afganistan it would be prolonged wars nearby. " FAIR to both sides" doesn't exist. Fair to Israel is existance, fair to Islam/Palestine is nonexistance of Israel, sorry you haven't been paying attention
Gotta love the fact that Obama's "talk with Iran" turns out to be another complete failure. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... -evolving/

Pretorian, I interview Iranians on a regular basis who are tring to get out of their country, let me know of any Americans trying to get IN to Iran.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', ' ') Sorry Six, Palestine et al calls for the destruction of Israel. No small amount of land will settle it.

[Cloud9]

Quinney:
What I said was meant to be sarcastic but there was an element of truth to it as well. As you wade through the Fast and Furious scandal, it is hard to fathom how the Justice Department was going to track thousands of assault rifles sold to Mexican cartel connections by just keeping track of serial numbers.

http://gawker.com/5835907/atf-director- ... -operation

Those weapons once released killed an American law enforcement officer.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09 ... er-agents/

Those weapons are showing up at Mexican crime scenes.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/201 ... apons.html

We would not have known about the origins of these weapons had not ATF agents ratted out their superiors.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavli ... corruption

In my estimation, there are only two possibilities. Either this scheme was concocted by village idiots or there was a darker even more sinister plan afoot.


Prior to the election, there was a bit of a buzz about Eric Holder wanting to shut down the gun shows as he saw them as a mechanism for terrorists to get weapons.

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign- ... -gun-shows

Had not an American border patrol officer been killed, I doubt we would ever have learned the origin of these weapons hitting Mexican streets. We would be left with the prima fascia evidence of American guns showing up at murder scenes all over Mexico. There would be pressure from the Mexican government to stem the flow of these weapons. Since ATF would be quite reluctant to reveal itself as the source of these weapons another source would be more than likely named. Considering Holder’s position on gun shows, they would seem to be the likely candidate.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'I')n my estimation, there are only two possibilities. Either this scheme was concocted by village idiots or there was a darker even more sinister plan afoot.

[alokin]

Iraq was invaded not having weapons of mass destruction. That does not necesarily mean that for Iran it is better building them. Until they have the bomb Israel will do everything to interfere, maybe they are even behind that plot. Why don't they go Stux?

[highlander]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'I')n my estimation, there are only two possibilities. Either this scheme was concocted by village idiots or there was a darker even more sinister plan afoot.

[PrestonSturges]

Since this whole plot seems a little clumsy, I have to wonder if this might not be a Saudi false flag operation to make DC sell them more weapons or something.

They probably feel pretty lonely without the Bushes in the White House. Dubya had such soft lips.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oneaboveall', 'L')et's not get into the "Wag the Dog" Scenarios. The Republicans did that to Bill in the 90s when they accused him of exaggerating Bin Laden to distract from Monica Lewinsky. We all remember how that turned out.

[rockdoc123]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat Bill Clinton was accused of was bombing an aspirin factory in the Sudan that had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH BIN LADEN. The US had to pay millions in reparations.

[Oneaboveall]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oneaboveall', 'L')et's not get into the "Wag the Dog" Scenarios. The Republicans did that to Bill in the 90s when they accused him of exaggerating Bin Laden to distract from Monica Lewinsky. We all remember how that turned out.

[PrestonSturges]

The GOP helped set us up for 9-11 with the impeachment of Bill Clinton, which kept DC tied in knots when it should have been paying attention to, oh I don't know, terrorism and stuff.

Nobody had their eye on the ball because of GOP grandstanding, and they claimed the Balkans were designed by the White House as a distraction from the impeachment.

[Oneaboveall]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'T')he GOP helped set us up for 9-11 with the impeachment of Bill Clinton, which kept DC tied in knots when it should have been paying attention to, oh I don't know, terrorism and stuff.

Nobody had their eye on the ball because of GOP grandstanding, and they claimed the Balkans were designed by the White House as a distraction from the impeachment.

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'T')he GOP helped set us up for 9-11 with the impeachment of Bill Clinton, which kept DC tied in knots when it should have been paying attention to, oh I don't know, terrorism and stuff.

Nobody had their eye on the ball because of GOP grandstanding, and they claimed the Balkans were designed by the White House as a distraction from the impeachment.