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Are We Past the Peak of Mankind's Glory Days?

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Re: Are We Past the Peak of Mankind's Glory Days?

Unread postby Serial_Worrier » Mon 26 Sep 2011, 17:19:39

Given the rate of progression in computers, we're nowhere near our peak. Just wait until self-aware AI machines develop, then we're in for a doozy!
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Re: Are We Past the Peak of Mankind's Glory Days?

Unread postby dsula » Mon 26 Sep 2011, 19:01:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', 'G')iven the rate of progression in computers,

The computer AI in my strategy games today is about as stupid as it was 20 years ago. Not much progress. As with everything there's saturation where a humongous effort in additional computing power doesn't really change the result significantly.
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Re: Are We Past the Peak of Mankind's Glory Days?

Unread postby Serial_Worrier » Tue 27 Sep 2011, 14:56:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', 'G')iven the rate of progression in computers,

The computer AI in my strategy games today is about as stupid as it was 20 years ago. Not much progress. As with everything there's saturation where a humongous effort in additional computing power doesn't really change the result significantly.


One anecdote proves nothing. Moore's Law is still in effect. Intel has already shown a prototype CPU with hundreds of cores. 3-D transitors. Super-low power CPUs that don't sacrifice anything in performance. Just look at the software people run in their everyday lives compared to even 5 years ago. It's amazing.
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Re: Are We Past the Peak of Mankind's Glory Days?

Unread postby dsula » Tue 27 Sep 2011, 16:38:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', 'G')iven the rate of progression in computers,

The computer AI in my strategy games today is about as stupid as it was 20 years ago. Not much progress. As with everything there's saturation where a humongous effort in additional computing power doesn't really change the result significantly.


One anecdote proves nothing. Moore's Law is still in effect. Intel has already shown a prototype CPU with hundreds of cores. 3-D transitors. Super-low power CPUs that don't sacrifice anything in performance. Just look at the software people run in their everyday lives compared to even 5 years ago. It's amazing.

No doubt. BUT it don't mean nothing. The productivity gain is marginal. I'm running Windows 7 on a 4 core machine. I'm not much more productive than I used to be using windows 95 on 166MHz cpu. Because most of the time the limiting factor is still me thinking not the computer calculating. And judging by the cleverness of my strategy game, we're still FAR FAR away form the computer doing the thinking.
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Re: Are We Past the Peak of Mankind's Glory Days?

Unread postby Serial_Worrier » Tue 27 Sep 2011, 17:13:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', 'N')o doubt. BUT it don't mean nothing. The productivity gain is marginal. I'm running Windows 7 on a 4 core machine. I'm not much more productive than I used to be using windows 95 on 166MHz cpu. Because most of the time the limiting factor is still me thinking not the computer calculating. And judging by the cleverness of my strategy game, we're still FAR FAR away form the computer doing the thinking.


Never mind your strategy game. Just think about how great the "first-person shooter" games have gotten. Stuff like "Call of Duty". The Kinect motion controller. Besides I can tell you that having 4-cores makes a big difference for a lot. F.e., I can watch HD video and simultaneously download 2-3 other things w/o any hiccups. Another test was running 4 HD videos from Youtube at the same time. No problems. Tell me this isn't a huge advance in computing!
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Re: Are We Past the Peak of Mankind's Glory Days?

Unread postby shenglu » Sun 23 Oct 2011, 21:32:26

We pay the price, now. Chinese programmers and engineers, annual production of millions, and we produce the "gender studies" professional.
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