[sicophiliac]

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/09/2 ... FH20110922

Its only barely faster than light based on what I have read and I wouldn't at all be surprised if these findings get revised and found to be nothing more than a miscalculation later. Its an interesting read though.

[dolanbaker]

Time to recalibrate the instruments me thinks....

[sicophiliac]

Yeah I agree that its probably a mistake, but imagine if its not. That discovery alone would make the whole CERN project worthwhile.

[Outcast_Searcher]

If this turns out to be for real, so much for thinking we are getting REMOTELY close to understanding a good model for how the universe works. Dark matter. Dark energy. Tachyons proven.

This is NOT your father's cosmology.

[jedrider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', 'I')f this turns out to be for real, so much for thinking we are getting REMOTELY close to understanding a good model for how the universe works. Dark matter. Dark energy. Tachyons proven.

This is NOT your father's cosmology.

[rockdoc123]

where is it written that nothing can be faster than the speed of light? Do any of you know how that concept came into mainstream thinking? Do I have to lecture everyone here?
Science is all about exploring the boundaries of our knowledge...this is an excellent case in point. The one true fact is that we know less than we think we do, and if you actually think about that statement it is an epiphany of the obvious.
Too bad the so-called climate scientists can't seem to challenge their own belief system.

[rangerone314]

Good god, its obvious what happened... with enormous magnetic fields they've probably distorted time/space, i.e. neutrinos didn't have to travel as far, hence they seemed to be going faster.

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rockdoc123', 'w')here is it written that nothing can be faster than the speed of light? Do any of you know how that concept came into mainstream thinking? Do I have to lecture everyone here?

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sicophiliac', 'h')ttp://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/09/22/us-science-light-idUKTRE78L4FH20110922

Its only barely faster than light based on what I have read and I wouldn't at all be surprised if these findings get revised and found to be nothing more than a miscalculation later. Its an interesting read though.

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rockdoc123', 'w')here is it written that nothing can be faster than the speed of light? Do any of you know how that concept came into mainstream thinking? Do I have to lecture everyone here?

[dorlomin]

I am dredging deep into the memory here and should actually do a bit of rereading on this but Feynman reckoned any particle moving backward in time was in effect its anti particle so if the nutrino was moving back in time it is quite likely to have had a rather notable property.

From the observers perspective you would see the nutrino arrive before it left, but then you would actually see an anti nutrino created in front of you then moving back towards the experiment to see it destroyed.

Anyone know if Im wrong on this?

[rockdoc123]

If memory serves Feynman talked about virtual photons which had the property to go faster or slower than the conventional speed of light. I think he talks about this in his book on light and matter.
There was a lot of discussion in the physics community a decade ago with regards to theories on the variable speed of light. I haven't paid much attention to particle physics discussions for many years so please educate me!

[Windmills]

Can't particles travel faster than light through a medium? Aren't these neutrinos passing through a medium from their point of origin to the detector? I thought the speed of light limitation only applied to a vacuum cleaner. Uh, vacuum.

[evilgenius]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'G')ood god, its obvious what happened... with enormous magnetic fields they've probably distorted time/space, i.e. neutrinos didn't have to travel as far, hence they seemed to be going faster.

[Rod_Cloutier]

So thev've determined some minute particles can travel slightly faster than the speed of light. Practical engineering and usage value of this discovery...........................

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Repent', 'S')o thev've determined some minute particles can travel slightly faster than the speed of light. Practical engineering and usage value of this discovery...........................

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rockdoc123', 'I')f memory serves Feynman talked about virtual photons which had the property to go faster or slower than the conventional speed of light. I think he talks about this in his book on light and matter.
There was a lot of discussion in the physics community a decade ago with regards to theories on the variable speed of light. I haven't paid much attention to particle physics discussions for many years so please educate me!

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rockdoc123', 'I')f memory serves Feynman talked about virtual photons which had the property to go faster or slower than the conventional speed of light. I think he talks about this in his book on light and matter.

[dinopello]

For Feynman fans, I would recommend finding the videos of the lectures he gave on QED at the University of Auckland in New Zealand. It was geared to laymen. I bought them many years ago on VHS tapes. I'll bet they are on the internet somewhere.

Feynman is so fun to watch and listen to. One could imagine working next to him on a construction job or something. He was not the run-of-the-mill genius physicist.

[Serial_Worrier]

This is all nice, but neutrinos have nothing to do with our ordinary lives or even celestial mechanics.