[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ubercrap', 'O')uch! That's what we get for being in the center of the country. Seriously, I find it hard to believe that Detroit doesn't beat out Kansas City, as I have lived in both cities. Many of Detroit's roads are like driving on the lunar surface.

[TrueKaiser]

it's mainly due to the fact that the taxes on gas here is not locked into only going for road repairs. because of that the tax money is used to fund pork mostly.

[aahala]

I'm in KC pretty often and am surprised they get the #1 award. It may
have been because of the unusually bad first few miles of I-70 leaving
the city east to St. Louis. Both towns probably get more than their share
of traffic due to their central location.

KC is on the "Nafta Highway" where Mexican and Canadian goods are
transported in the US. I've heard that in N. Mexico/S. Texas there's a
area that has the greatest level of semi traffic in the world. The trucks load
up with goods from Mexico but they don't return empty, they return
filled with cash, government debt securities and credit card receipts to pay
for the next shipment.

[cube]

The roads aren't that bad......yet. It could always get worse.

[Tanada]

Pot holes smot holes, most of the serious one are caused by over loaded long haul trucks, and PO is killing off long haul trucking almost as fast as it kills the Airlines. Rail is more than 9 times as efficient in terms of ton/miles for cargo trasnport and as costs rise the bussiness is moving there.

[spot5050]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RonMN', 'A')s if we didn't know this already...here's a bit of a news report out today:

QUOTE:
About 71 percent of major roads and highways in the Kansas City area are considered substandard, ranking the city No. 1 on the list of large urban areas with poor quality roads.

The St. Louis area ranked No. 3, with 66 percent of major routes having unacceptable quality pavement, according to the study released Thursday by TRIP, a Washington-based transportation research group.

And my personal favorite quote:

"We get a lot of cross-country traffic and we get more than our fair share of heavy truck traffic as well," Briggs said. "A lot of these major highways are 30 to 40 years old, taking a tremendous beating from all this traffic, and they are simply wearing out faster than we can repair them."

Can you say "overshoot"???

[matt21811]

"they are simply wearing out faster than we can repair them."

Can you say "overshoot"???"


Total non sequitur.
The first statement isnt even true. Are they telling me that the rate of repair of roads cant be improved simply by, oh i dont know, spending more money.

As for overshoot. We are not even close. Universal wealth will curb the population way before we reach any nature imposed restrictions.

[ubercrap]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', 'T')he roads aren't that bad......yet. It could always get worse.

[JBinKC]

I'll take bad roads over the waiting time and energy wasted by traffic jams from road construction caused from these repairs they are attempting to do now on the interstate system.

I must admit quite a few city streets are bad but that is KC's undoing by annexing such a big area to maintain. I believe the city has the most road miles per capita than every city in the US.

[Cyrus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'c')ube wrote: The roads aren't that bad......yet. It could always get worse.
Something like that happened in front of my apartment when I lived in Detroit. It looked like a giant puddle, but there was nothing under it. It swallowed up a good third to a half of a full-size van.

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('matt21811', 'A')s for overshoot. We are not even close. Universal wealth will curb the population way before we reach any nature imposed restrictions.

[ubercrap]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('matt21811', '&')quot;they are simply wearing out faster than we can repair them." Can you say "overshoot"???"
Total non sequitur. The first statement isnt even true. Are they telling me that the rate of repair of roads cant be improved simply by, oh i dont know, spending more money. As for overshoot. We are not even close. Universal wealth will curb the population way before we reach any nature imposed restrictions.

[shortonoil]

I wouldn't be too concerned with the condition of the roads.

It's the BRIDGES that you should be worried about!


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[ArimoDave]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonoil', 'I') wouldn't be too concerned with the condition of the roads.

It's the BRIDGES that you should be worried about!


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[SidneyTawl]

I don't know about that AD

Cars don't float or fly very well.

[ubercrap]

If anyone is in Detroit proper, look up and tell me what you see when you drive under the overpasses. Several years ago, it was common for me to see a bunch of pieces of plywood spanning between the steel supports. Presumably, this is or was to keep the crumbling pavement from falling on the cars below, as I remember news reports of people getting concrete chunks through the windshield, blowing out tires from the debris, etc.. from this type of thing. A friend of mine had his car damaged when a piece of concrete fell from an overpass.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ubercrap', 'I')f anyone is in Detroit proper, look up and tell me what you see when you drive under the overpasses. Several years ago, it was common for me to see a bunch of pieces of plywood spanning between the steel supports. Presumably, this is or was to keep the crumbling pavement from falling on the cars below, as I remember news reports of people getting concrete chunks through the windshield, blowing out tires from the debris, etc.. from this type of thing. A friend of mine had his car damaged when a piece of concrete fell from an overpass.

[eastbay]

I just finished a 4 day drive from the SF area to Portland, OR. As I was returning home driving near Redding, CA, I noticed a highway 99 monument as I was passing by.

It had a small section of the original 99 getting eaten up by the elements and wow nature certainly eats retired roadways fast!! I've seen this before years ago driving across America noticing retired sections of decaying roadway lying beside the newer freeways.

Anyhow, it's fairly obvious that all the roads and cities we've built across North America will decay and disappear not too long after the last cars are gone. I was somehow comforted by seeing this.

EastBay

[boilingleadbath]

So much for even having the "best set of bicycle trails the world has ever known" after PO...