[Cog]

Yes we should end the endless entitlements that veterans think they are deserving of. I can say this being one of the few vets on this board.

As far as the seniors go, the sooner they miss a few checks, the sooner they will wisen up to the idea that they believed in the lie of free lunches.

[Sixstrings]

Ah, LOL rolling on the floor.. the Grand Bargain we all knew was coming..

Republicans are just going to raise the debt ceiling with no spending cuts.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]BREAKING: McConnell Opens the Escape Hatch

We're just getting the first word on this. So the details may be subject to clarification. But Senate Minority Leader has just suggested the GOP will give President Obama his debt limit increase without any spending cuts with a legislative maneuver that in essence allows Republicans to say it's all Obama's fault.

If that sounds bizarre, well, it is pretty bizarre. But that's what he said. More in a moment.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2011/07/mcconnell_opens_the_escape_hatch.php

[AgentR11]

They ought to just raise the ceiling to one quadrillion, write a "do whatever you feel like" law, and go home.
Cowards.
lol

Not surprised btw.

[Serial_Worrier]

The bottom line is the New Deal is bankrupt and it's austerity-time. If that means poor people need to be put in dormitories, so be it.

[Livewire713]

Maybe Dick Cheney was right , deficits don't matter. The show must go on!

[Livewire713]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', 'T')he bottom line is the New Deal is bankrupt and it's austerity-time. If that means poor people need to be put in dormitories, so be it.

[SeaGypsy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'Y')es we should end the endless entitlements that veterans think they are deserving of. I can say this being one of the few vets on this board.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'C')og, what kind of retirement program do you offer your employees?

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'C')og, what kind of retirement program do you offer your employees?

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f he DOES pay competitive wages but has no retirement plan, then his employees should PLAN AHEAD and be putting PLENTY of money away for their retirement instead of buying a Lexus, a bigger house, fancier vacation, Las Vegas hookers, etc. etc.

[Serial_Worrier]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Livewire713', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', 'T')he bottom line is the New Deal is bankrupt and it's austerity-time. If that means poor people need to be put in dormitories, so be it.

[Oneaboveall]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'C')og, what kind of retirement program do you offer your employees?

[Livewire713]

The way Cog lashes out at people on this board I would say he is narcissistic, bipolar or borderline. He has also admitted to talking to himself in a past post which could also mean he is hearing voices. Its best to stay away from people like this, I sure would hate to have to work for someone like this. Talk about a living hell.

[Pops]

Yep, the only things the 'pubs wanted was votes, it's all about party over people:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')cConnell's proposal would require Obama to request three increases in the debt limit, in installments through next summer, in order to get past the November 2012 election.

Each time, it would be subject to a congressional vote of disapproval. That likely would happen, mostly with Republican votes, forcing Obama to veto it. Congress then would fail to override his veto if one-third of the members of either house -- Democrats, presumably -- voted to uphold it.

Obama also would be required to submit a list of proposed spending cuts at least equal to the amount of the debt limit increase -- a reference to House Speaker John Boehner's insistence on a dollar-for-dollar ratio. But the list would be just that -- it would not produce legislation reducing the deficit.

The result: No default, but no deficit reduction -- and a political hot potato for Democrats.

[Oneaboveall]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Livewire713', '[')b]The way Cog lashes out at people on this board I would say he is narcissistic, bipolar or borderline. He has also admitted to talking to himself in a past post which could also mean he is hearing voices. Its best to stay away from people like this, I sure would hate to have to work for someone like this. Talk about a living hell.

[Oakley]

Here is an email that is currently circulating on the topic of Social Security cuts:

[quote]One Mad Farmer

Alan Simpson, Senator from Wyoming, Co-Chair of Obama's deficit commission, calls senior citizens the Greediest Generation as he compared "Social Security" to a Milk Cow with 310 million teats. August, 2010..

Here's a response in a letter from a unknown farmer in Montana...
I think he is a little ticked off! He also tells it like it is !

"Hey Alan, let's get a few things straight..

1. As a career politician, you have been on the public tit for FIFTY YEARS.

2.. I have been paying Social Security taxes for 48 YEARS (since I was 15 Years old. I am now 63).

3 My Social Security payments, and those of millions of other Americans, were safely tucked away in an interest bearing account for decades until you political pukes decided to raid the account and give OUR money to a bunch of zero ambition losers in re turn for votes, thus bankrupting the system and turning Social Security into a Ponzi scheme that would have made Bernie Madoff proud.

4. Recently, just like Lucy & Charlie Brown, you and your ilk pulled the proverbial football away from millions of American seniors nearing retirement and moved the goalposts for full retirement from age 65 to age 67. NOW, you and your shill commission are proposing to move the goalposts YET AGAIN.

5 I, and millions of other Americans, have been paying into Medicare from day ONE, and now you morons propose to change the rules of the game.. Why? Because you idiots mismanaged other parts of the economy to such an extent that you need to steal money from Medicare to pay the bills.

6. I, and millions of other Americans, have been paying income taxes our entire lives, and now you propose to increase our taxes yet again. Why? Because you incompetent bastards spent our money so profligately that you just kept on spending even after you ran out of money. Now, you come to the American taxpayers and say you need more to pay off YOUR debt.

To add insult to injury, you label us "greedy" for calling "bullshit" on your incompetence. Well, Captain Bullshit, I have a few questions for YOU.

1. How much money have you earned from the American taxpayers during your pathetic 50-year political career?

2. At what age did you retire from your pathetic political career, and how much are you receiving in annual retirement benefits from the American taxpayers?

3. How much do you pay for YOUR government provided health insurance?

I can't wait to see the little old ladies show up with their umbrellas and beat these jerks over the head for their plunder and control regime.

[Serial_Worrier]

Screw him. Better yet make him into Soylent Green. Old feller might as well be useful for sumthin'.

[Sixstrings]

In spite of Obama, Democrats won, so where are the Tea Party tears in this thread? Rachel Maddow hoisted up a white flag with a little fan blowing it, having a good laugh..

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Senate Republican Leader McConnell Folds On The Debt Ceiling

Something troubling happened in D.C. today, where it seems that the Senate Republican leader basically just folded like a cheap suit in the ongoing farscial standoff on the debt ceiling (which luckily should bring the whole comedy to an end and the nation can progress with its previously scheduled ponzi collapse). In essence, as Bloomberg says, according to McConnell's proposed 3-Stage plan, "The debt-ceiling increase could occur without the companion spending cuts, McConnell said."
http://www.zerohedge.com/

[Cog]

The House is a whole different matter. Senator McConnell thinks he runs this particular show but right now there is no mood in the House to raise the debt limit.

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Livewire713', 'T')he way Cog lashes out at people on this board I would say he is narcissistic, bipolar or borderline. He has also admitted to talking to himself in a past post which could also mean he is hearing voices. Its best to stay away from people like this, I sure would hate to have to work for someone like this. Talk about a living hell.