[babystrangeloop]

It's all about control. If you aren't permitted to produce food then those who are control you.

http://FarmageddonMovie.com/

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]"Farmageddon": Government thugs vs. organic farmers
Contraband sheep! Illicit yogurt! A new documentary explores the bureaucratic attack on crunchy farming
By Andrew O'Hehir / Salon / July 8, 2011

... A Vermont family has its entire herd of imported sheep destroyed, thanks to a completely imaginary outbreak of mad-cow disease (which is not known to occur in sheep in the first place, and definitely didn't occur in theirs). Armed agents invade an upstate New York farm to seize a cooler full of raspberry yogurt. An undercover unit breaks up an interstate trafficking ring -- one devoted to bringing USDA-certified raw milk from South Carolina across the line into Georgia. ...

[peeker01]

have you ever lived next door to an urban chicken coop? I have, and it's no treat. It's
one thing if you are on 40 acres, and you are the only one listening to the roosters 24/7,
another if you don't appreciate them.

all civil societies have laws. without laws you have anarchy.

[dohboi]

We have had a number of roosters in our neighborhood. I find it charming though a bit startling at times. In these cases, I am fairly sure they are kept for sacrificial purposes (Hmong traditional practices).

[Sixstrings]

Does anyone actually die from unpasteurized milk? What I don't get is how did milk suddenly become dangerous in 1950.

[peeker01]

yes, many deaths, but with no cnn, who knew but the neighbors.

http://infectiousdiseases.about.com/od/ ... kborne.htm

[EnergyUnlimited]

Ech, well Americans,
Your still existing food safety laws and zoning regulations are the final fits of decadent society struggling to delay descending into Third World status.

Laws will struggle on for a while and then collapse into chaos and safety will be replaced by healthy risk taking practices which are incidentally selecting the fittest (but also the richest...) to survive.

No, unpasteurized milk is not that dangerous but on very few occasions it can be and time is coming to accept it as a matter of life.
Have drunk a lot of it and still alive and well.
It is also much tastier than a sh*t from your licensed food store.

As a kid I was also scratched by roaster on one or two occasions, that is not a life threatening (albeit must be frightening for modern man) experience.
I do not find their noise offensive.

[Cog]

Sanitation is an important consideration when using unpasteurized milk. Cleaning the udders before milking the cow, milking into a sterilized container, and having healthy animals is a consideration. Other than that, unpasteurized milk can be perfectly safe to drink.

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'S')anitation is an important consideration when using unpasteurized milk. Cleaning the udders before milking the cow, milking into a sterilized container, and having healthy animals is a consideration. Other than that, unpasteurized milk can be perfectly safe to drink.

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '
')Ever seen a panzer-cow which have grown a thick layer of s*** on its body due to lack of hygiene?

[babystrangeloop]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'T')here is no national conspiracy to crush the local food movement. Unpasteurized milk in the hands of amateur producers is dangerous.

[babystrangeloop]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'C')all me an elitist but dried cow s*** floating in my unpasteurized milk doesn't appeal to me.

[Loki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', '[')url=http://infectiousdiseases.about.com/od/g/a/milkborne.htm]infectious diseases[/url]

[babystrangeloop]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', 's')eeing for yourself the conditions in which it's produced

[Loki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'T')here is no national conspiracy to crush the local food movement. Unpasteurized milk in the hands of amateur producers is dangerous. Local health department do not have the training, expertise or the budget to monitor these businesses. You willing to pay higher taxes to change this?

[babystrangeloop]

All milk should be processed in a double boiler right in your own kitchen or it will destroy you forever!

Besides once you've pasteurized it the milk can be made into tasty yogurt at home.

Bacterial culture growth follows a bell curve too just like oil production.

If you eat yogurt at the time when the bacterial culture growth is at the peak of the bell curve you get maximum health benefits.

Therefore it is a waste of time and energy for supermarket mike to be pasteurized when you will just have to consume more fossil fuels re-doing it at home.

[Loki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I')t's just romantic to say that local people are more honest than big corporations. Imagine if Taco Bell poisoned you. The truth would spread like wildfire and a multi-billion company would be damaged, perhaps fatally. Now imagine if a local greasy spoon poisoned you? No one would care.