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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby peeker01 » Tue 28 Jun 2011, 23:12:27

platitudes are like .........
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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby astalavista_b » Wed 29 Jun 2011, 15:34:26

Do not set goals that you will never reach, everybody can not reach his/her own goal since some point your goal will have a coincidence with others. Try to share much, put yourself at the people who earn less than 2 $ a day (2,5 billion) and be happy.
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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby AgentR11 » Wed 29 Jun 2011, 16:14:04

Never surrender!
Never accept defeat.
Do not stop, ever, until none stand above.

VICTORY OR DEATH!!!


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**sorry... I briefly channeled some odd spirit carrying a 10kg dual tipped sword thing. He insisted.
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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby RedStateGreen » Thu 30 Jun 2011, 15:30:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bill Hicks', '
')I actually blogged about the slow crash vs. fast crash issue just today. Check it out if you're interested:

http://billhicksisdead.blogspot.com/201 ... n-how.html

I really like your blog, I've put it in my reader. :)
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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby Bill Hicks » Thu 30 Jun 2011, 20:43:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedStateGreen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bill Hicks', '
')I actually blogged about the slow crash vs. fast crash issue just today. Check it out if you're interested:

http://billhicksisdead.blogspot.com/201 ... n-how.html

I really like your blog, I've put it in my reader. :)



Thanks, RSG! :)
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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby ian807 » Thu 30 Jun 2011, 21:17:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'N')ever surrender!
Never accept defeat.
Do not stop, ever, until none stand above.

VICTORY OR DEATH!!!
KahPlah!

**sorry... I briefly channeled some odd spirit carrying a 10kg dual tipped sword thing. He insisted.
Yeah, I hate it when that happens. :)
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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby thuja » Thu 30 Jun 2011, 22:19:02

Bah- disappointment...Jesus. Go tell that to the poor homeless person when his food stamps are cut and the price of food is through the roof. Tell me that when your single mom neighbor can't get health care for her baby. Oh wait that's already happening. Does that make you elated that people are suffering? And you're disappointed because its not happening faster? Man...

I am so tired of the fast crash brigade here. Why don't you find your own web site where you can share stories of wanking off to pictures of Rambo in your organic solar powered doomstead.

I am disappointed...in you.
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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby John_A » Thu 30 Jun 2011, 22:48:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('thuja', 'B')ah- disappointment...Jesus. Go tell that to the poor homeless person when his food stamps are cut and the price of food is through the roof.Tell me that when your single mom neighbor can't get health care for her baby. Oh wait that's already happening. Does that make you elated that people are suffering? And you're disappointed because its not happening faster? Man...


Doom is all about separating us (the chosen and prepared) from them (sheeple, unemployed, single moms, etc etc). And then entertaining the idea that we win, and they lose. And profit (less population, more resources for the chosen ones, happy farmers and bunker residents all) from it. Empathy for the billions piled up and rotting in ditches just gets in the way of planning, heck might even make us feel guilty about being enlightened, compared to "them"?
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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby thuja » Thu 30 Jun 2011, 23:11:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('John_A', '
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Doom is all about separating us (the chosen and prepared) from them (sheeple, unemployed, single moms, etc etc). And then entertaining the idea that we win, and they lose. And profit (less population, more resources for the chosen ones, happy farmers and bunker residents all) from it. Empathy for the billions piled up and rotting in ditches just gets in the way of planning, heck might even make us feel guilty about being enlightened, compared to "them"?


Agreed- its so pathetic and tired.
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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby peeker01 » Thu 30 Jun 2011, 23:17:52

so much rage thuja......what have i said to anger you so?
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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby thuja » Fri 01 Jul 2011, 00:48:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', 's')o much rage thuja......what have i said to anger you so?


Welcome to the site bro. When you say you are disappointed that the collapse hasn't happened yet...you will invite my wrath. Its a stupid, and likely juvenile, thing to say. It makes this site look bad. Think before you post.
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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby ki11ercane » Fri 01 Jul 2011, 01:01:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', 'f')or five years i have prepped and saved. just bought a bunch of gold. now oil is dropping
like a rock, silver is in the tank. will i see collapse in my lifetime.


Why do you want to see a collapse? You sound like a person who's disappointed their biopsy came back negative. Good God man!

Collapse or not, you should be prepping and saving anyways! Prepping is no different than insurance or a first aid kit. You have them "just in case." If you don't need them, good on you! You planned for the worst and so far the best has come by. Be grateful!

Saving your money and not squandering it on plastic crap, fast food sh!t, and useless junk is actually an act of SANITY. Saving more, spending less on the things that do not benefit our lives and the lives of the people close to us, and not OVEREXTENDING ourselves is actually a good thing.

<all prepping aside, everyone who invents should have 10% of their financial portfolio in real silver or gold>

Finally, you can benefit when times are good or bad, and people should learn to do both.

I have been prepping for 6+ years myself, and I can say my life is way better off than it was six years ago, and I have no wish for things to turn upside down. That doesn't mean I won't plan for the worst.
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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby davep » Fri 01 Jul 2011, 08:49:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')oom is all about separating us (the chosen and prepared) from them (sheeple, unemployed, single moms, etc etc). And then entertaining the idea that we win, and they lose.


Rubbish. For some of us it is about a new way of farming to show the way forward in a post-peak world. The guns are merely a contingency measure :-D
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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby Pops » Fri 01 Jul 2011, 09:31:50

:lol:

Come on guys, isn't it obvious Peeker is a troll?
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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby rangerone314 » Sun 03 Jul 2011, 01:44:01

Every 4 months I take a certain fixed amount of money I've set aside and I buy all the gold & silver I can at whatever price, with that money.

Ditto on stocks, except every 3 months for that.

FIxed amounts for extra car payments & various funds, including a savings fund for when I get solar panels installed.

Cash set aside each payperiod for groceries.

Small fixed amount of "mad money" for wife & I each to spend for whatever.

When the agriculture fund reaches a certain point, I order more plants, trees, etc.

When the defense fund is higher, I will get a good gun safe & purchase a crossbow, to go into it with the AR15 I currently have. Eventually plan on getting a Barrett M-95, few pistols, chakrams, Chinese greatsword etc.
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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby dolanbaker » Sun 03 Jul 2011, 05:37:23

Not disappointed at all! I don't anticipate a fast crash, just a slow jerky decline over the next couple of centuries. More an erosion than a collapse!

The longer it takes the better for all, just gives me more time to reduce my exposure to the affects of high energy costs. Each year now I am increasing teh area of allotment in the garden and wil be planting willow for biofuel later this year.
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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby peeker01 » Mon 04 Jul 2011, 11:12:06

yea, i'm starting to get the impression that all that stuff i learned on latoc was a bunch
of bull. guess that's why mark bailed out.
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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby AgentR11 » Mon 04 Jul 2011, 12:17:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', 'y')ea, i'm starting to get the impression that all that stuff i learned on latoc was a bunch
of bull. guess that's why mark bailed out.


I don't know if it was bull; but you have to understand the psychology of apocalypse. Humans think and react in small, discrete events, "i went to the beach", "i made dinner", "i painted my house"... If you tell them, that soon, a tipping point will be reached, the economy will go belly up, and we're all gonna be without food in the grocery store in a very short time span, they can envision it, plan/prep for it, etc...

Just how I see it. When the "crash" takes a week or a month, "bug out bags" and other such, kinda make sense if you have somewhere to go. If the "crash" happens slowly and roughly over a 50-100 yr period, ending in a roasted, fern and fungus infested, desolate (from a mammals point of view) world; how do you even begin to think the words "bug out bag"...
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Re: how do you deal with the disappointment

Unread postby Loki » Tue 05 Jul 2011, 19:51:38

Pops, troll or not (I'm leaning towards the former), the OP elicited an enjoyable discussion. I particularly like ki11ercane and davep's contributions. I completely agree with both of them, though I haven't invested in PMs myself (aside from lead).

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', 'R')ubbish. For some of us it is about a new way of farming to show the way forward in a post-peak world. The guns are merely a contingency measure


Love it! (as a fellow farmer/gun nut)

Despite my doomer proclivities I'm not opposed to the green techno-utopian BAU future, sucking down that free fusion power to power our flying plug-in Priuses. But it's just so absurdly improbable, you have to be living in fantasyland to think technotopia is actually going to happen in our lifetime, or in our grandchildren's lifetime for that matter.

Collapse won't be any fun, I've had two bouts of unemployment, they were both awful, though the first one led me to horticulture, and second to farming, so they had good results all told.

Only the sociopathic are cheering collapse. I'm certainly not looking forward to the Greater Depression, which we've been tettering on since at least 2008. There's a high enough probability of it happening that it's absolutely prudent to “prepare,” which for me means developing self-sufficiency skills. I've been inclined to focus most of my efforts on farming/gardening and putting food by the last few years, but have also dabbled in most of the other usual prepper stuff (water storage and filters, off-grid power, guns, BOBs, etc.).

I've really enjoyed my self-sufficiency experiments, it's my main hobby because I like doing it. No reason to be miserable about learning new ways of doing things, regardless of what the future brings.
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