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Re: No more insights to be gleaned
by Pops » Thu 26 May 2011, 14:55:46
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'C')ontinuing to surf these websites that point out these already known truths is not going to do it. Sorry. So what is your game plan?
Learn to type faster, you changed the subject while I was pecking out my last response!
The overall economic situation, scary government actions and PO prompted us to move up our retirement plans years ago - it wasn't some big bug-out, it just happened that moving to RFD suited us and the timing was right. So I'm about as transitioned as I'm gonna get, just watchin the show now.
That said, I am skeptical, naw, I'll be honest, I laugh at anyone who thinks they posses the truth.
This time a year ago we were about 2 weeks in to seeing pre-salt oil - the next big thing in sorta-conventional oil, going up in a plume in the GOM. Deepwater was the new thing in light weight oil and supposed to make up a big part of the Yet-To-Be-Discovered area on the charts. It hasn't yet recovered and may not for quite a while, and when it does it'll be even more expensive.
Ditto on what Hubbert saw as the only real solution to peak oil when the Japanese Nukes went up in a puff of radioactive vapor a couple of months ago. That source of power had lots of people just itching to plug in their PEVs, PESilverados, PETractors, PEAirliners and whatall but that form of Too-Cheap-To-Meter may not be the plum from the Energy Fairy's Bum after all.
Here we sit today with oil at $100 and the economy either about to break out or break down, and I gotta wonder, is this the beginning of the new economy that can be independent of expensive energy or the threshold where we take the next GDP face-plant?
So you have all those and a thousand more figured out?
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Re: No more insights to be gleaned
by Daniel_Plainview » Thu 26 May 2011, 15:17:52
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'W')hen is the last time you really read a worthwhile post on this site or any other peak oil related site? Let's include the Oil Drum and JMG's Archdruid site as well. ...Time to move on?
For me, po.com is an oasis ... an oasis away from the MSM disinformation machine ... an oasis away from the various govt's efforts to deceive and shroud the truth ... an oasis where I can interact with like-minded people.
When you've been in a desert wandering aimlessly for dozens of years among the Sheeple, and you happen upon a thriving oasis, you stick with it. No oasis is perfect, and no oasis provides all of your nourishment. On balance, I give po.com a thumbs-up.
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Re: No more insights to be gleaned
by radon » Thu 26 May 2011, 16:26:29
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I')t's quite possible the USA can go it alone.
--The USA does have plenty of natural resources and a somewhat manageable population/arable land ratio.
--is isolated (except from Mexico/Central America),
--has a huge army,
--lots of material wealth already tied up (but still available) in mined/smelted/refined metals, modern concrete buildings, assemblies, sub-assemblies (framing lumber, steel beams, concrete slabs)
--happy content people
--The USA does have plenty of natural resources and a somewhat manageable population/arable land ratio.
--is isolated (except from Mexico/Central America),
--has a huge army,
--lots of material wealth already tied up (but still available) in mined/smelted/refined metals, modern concrete buildings, assemblies, sub-assemblies (framing lumber, steel beams, concrete slabs)
--happy content people
All valid points, also showing that sometimes being a doomer is not too bad after all.
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Re: No more insights to be gleaned
by Keith_McClary » Thu 26 May 2011, 19:08:06
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('drgoodword', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', 'W')hat about those "resource wars" those peakers were predicting?
All I'm seeing is "rebellions" by "pro-democracy, pro-US" forces against evil dictators who don't play nice with IOCs.
All I'm seeing is "rebellions" by "pro-democracy, pro-US" forces against evil dictators who don't play nice with IOCs.
The U.S. has spent over one trillion dollars over the past ten years invading and occupying two formerly sovereign nations in the most important oil region in the world. I'd say the resource wars are in full swing.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'H')ave you not been reading newspapers or even listening to bbc?? Other than oil, is there any reason at all that we'd give two hoots about what a bunch of backward people do to each other in their desolate sand pits. These are them. I count Iraq, Afghanistan, and Lybia as current hot zones; and a few others with somewhat less Western involvement are simmering along.
If yall thought a resource war would involve the US and China exchanging nukes... well... BAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Wrong answer.
Of course I suspect these are resource wars, but there are questions that I haven't seen discussed on PO.com.
What is the objective:
- to be able to turn off the taps to China?
- to open up countries to US corporations?
- to make the ruling regimes dependent on buying US weapons and training to stay in power?
- other???
Whatever it is doesn't seem cost effective. Are they failing to achieve their objectives?
So far we have not seen much outright theft of resources, except in Palestine, a few $billion of Iraq oil revenues and the recent move to transfer Libyan assets to the NATO backed regime in Benghazi.
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