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The real irony is that so many old folks are Republican.
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House Approves GOP Austerity measures
Re: House Approves GOP Austerity measures
by careinke » Sun 17 Apr 2011, 01:44:43
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The real irony is that so many old folks are Republican.
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The real irony is that so many old folks are Republican.
I wonder why that is? When I was in my teens and twenties, most of the young were Dimocrats and the elders were Repuglicans too. Either Dimocrats die disproportionally young, or they change their beliefs after more experience in the real world. Alternatively, it could just be self economic interest.
Young people normally don't have a lot of money or assets. So naturally they would want government subsidies for the poor, a highly progressive tax system, and perhaps be looking for a replacement for their mother who took care of them before they became an adult. Hence the Democratic position.
As one gets older their income goes up, they build up assets, and generally become more educated and more wealthy. So it is in their economic interest to keep taxes low, limit the amount of money taken by death taxes, and generally protect the assets they have acquired through a strong national defense. Hence the Republican position.
Obviously some people are more financially successful than others. If you were not very successful you would still want the government to take care of you. So it is in their economic interest to continue supporting the Dem position. Finally, some people are always Dem or Rep leaning, these types are willing to sacrifice their economic interests for their ideological beliefs.
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Re: House Approves GOP Austerity measures
by ColossalContrarian » Sun 17 Apr 2011, 02:01:51
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('astronomer', 'I') love it when Obama makes claims like "Paul Ryan's plan will end Medicare as we know it"
Obama is smart enough to know that ending Medicare "as we know it" has to be done because it's going bankrupt. He's also smart enough to know that pretending Medicare is fine will help to get him re-elected. He'll worry about our country going bankrupt after Nov 2012. After all, not being a two term president is down right embarressing and that matters more than anything.
Obama is smart enough to know that ending Medicare "as we know it" has to be done because it's going bankrupt. He's also smart enough to know that pretending Medicare is fine will help to get him re-elected. He'll worry about our country going bankrupt after Nov 2012. After all, not being a two term president is down right embarressing and that matters more than anything.
I still don't get what the big deal about Carter was but I wasn't born so I don't know the whole story. It seems that what I do know is that he warned the World of coming trouble 30 years ago and nobody listened to him.
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Re: House Approves GOP Austerity measures
by Pretorian » Sun 17 Apr 2011, 02:31:35
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', 'I') forget who it was (maybe Alan Simpson) but I heard someone describe the problem correctly - that is that the current medicare system (affordable healthcare that covers to end of life) was too successful. It enabled too many people to live much longer - this cannot be sustained. The longer you live, the more health issue you have that can be treated and the more cost. It's a dilema that is hard to get out of. The right hand list is a bitch.
there are 25 or so countries where people live longer and their ( free) healthcare is 5-10-25 times cheaper than USA's one.
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Re: House Approves GOP Austerity measures
by PrestonSturges » Sun 17 Apr 2011, 02:34:26
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'P')oor preston he feels so inadequate he can not even make a single post without badmouthing someone. Hopefully it is therapeutic for him and gives some measure of relief. So easy to criticize, so hard to come up with any kind of original solution. Hopefully when he grows up he will figure out it is not a zero sum game.
No, only for politics, and people post political stuff here for the purpose of being stupid. It's not random, or hit and miss, the political stuff is deliberately stupid. I don't know what people get out of that, except in terms of them maybe having mommy issues going back to toilet training, so this recreates the whole the experience of crapping their pants to get attention. Am I wrong? You're full of insight, so give it a shot. Don't assume I'll read you response in the next 48 hours, so no rush.
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