[joewp]

Recently YouTube granted me the ability to upload videos longer than 15 minutes, just because I'm a nice guy or something, I guess.
I wasted no time in posting Dr. Bartlett's famous lecture, in the version that I prefer that is rare on line.

So I thought I'd share it here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOrvGDRLT7A

[Newfie]

Thanks, I have seen it before but this is a better format.

For anyone who has NOT seen this I highly recommend it. I can be life changing. And it is just so elemental and common sense.

Impossible to refute.

Cheers.

[mos6507]

The demographic-shifters do refute it. Whether you buy the refutation is up to you. Certainly the biosphere has already told us in no uncertain terms that we're in overshoot even if we just stay at 7 billion, let alone the 10 that we're projected to reach not long from now.

[Newfie]

I don't know what a 'demographic-shifter' is but the math is simple. I suspect the 'demographic-shifters' are simple too.

[furrybill]

Being the rabid tree-hugger that I am this is the reason why I see the coming Doom as having a silver lining. Post-Peak, global warming, debt problems, concentration of wealth in fewer and fewer hands, you name it. It all adds up to lots of people dying, hopefully in the billions. There'll probably be quite a bit of environmental damage in the short-term as people try to feed and heat themselves, but in the long term a significant die-off will be a boon to Mother Earth...

[Pretorian]

Yes it will be pretty good. And the sooner the better. As long as I get a hiding spot somewhere safe, that is.

[Oakley]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'Y')es it will be pretty good. And the sooner the better. As long as I get a hiding spot somewhere safe, that is.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oakley', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'Y')es it will be pretty good. And the sooner the better. As long as I get a hiding spot somewhere safe, that is.

[joewp]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('furrybill', 'B')eing the rabid tree-hugger that I am this is the reason why I see the coming Doom as having a silver lining. Post-Peak, global warming, debt problems, concentration of wealth in fewer and fewer hands, you name it. It all adds up to lots of people dying, hopefully in the billions. There'll probably be quite a bit of environmental damage in the short-term as people try to feed and heat themselves, but in the long term a significant die-off will be a boon to Mother Earth...

[Pretorian]

Over 30 years?! So now, with your help, its the end of his gig?

But seriously what would you choose from that list on the right to put the numbers down? I mean there is no some magic flu, all things are pretty groovy there.

[Ayoob]

Back to the Gorge, in ten years or less.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'T')he demographic-shifters do refute it. Whether you buy the refutation is up to you. Certainly the biosphere has already told us in no uncertain terms that we're in overshoot even if we just stay at 7 billion, let alone the 10 that we're projected to reach not long from now.

[kiwichick]

from populationmatters.org

http://populationmatters.org/attenborough-rsa-speech/

[Newfie]

Slight problem with link.

http://populationmatters.org/attenboroughs-rsa-speech/

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', '
')Which is why George Carlin says don't worry about the planet, the planet is fine.

[Newfie]

Well, he was trying to make a point. Which he did. Can you think of anyone who was more succesful at making the same point to the general audience?