[Maddog78]

Good post, rockdoc123.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you can find a case of a oil company or government that uses the concept of EROEI in calculating reserves then please point us all to that

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Maddog78', 'G')ood post, rockdoc123.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you can find a case of a oil company or government that uses the concept of EROEI in calculating reserves then please point us all to that

[Cid_Yama]

No one said anything about oil companies or governments using EROEI in determining reserves. They were accusing them of posting reserves that include low EROEI unconventional sources to hide the decline in conventional oil.

You can twist people's words all you want, but when they read this thread, what people like kiwichick and Lore and Shar have posted is clear and concise and easily understood, whereas the obfuscating crap and misdirection that you post makes no sense at all.

Too bad you can't unpost what others have posted. Then you could actually hide the truth. Now you just make yourselves out to be shills toting the Oil Industry line.

Add to that the supergiant countries of OPEC, whose power depends on the spice flowing, fudging the numbers for obvious reasons, we're in for a lot of hurt.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rockdoc123', '
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They typically meet with the company technical people to understand how they view the information and what interpretations were made and then they go away and do their own analysis.

[rockdoc123]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')specially since it forces you to go on record as believing nonsense. I can't imagine any amount of money that could induce someone to present themselves as a liar or sh*t for brains over and over again.

[Cid_Yama]

If I were an oil company I wouldn't pay you a dime. You can't shill worth crap. You can't even throw a decent insult.

And by the way, an ad hominem attack is where instead of addressing the points of the argument, you attempt to discredit the person making the argument.

What you attempted to do to me, not what I did to you. I actually made my points in the argument. You keep trying to change the conversation.

[Lore]

Hey;… how’s this for an insult, and I quote,

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')oman Moroni: “You fargin sneaky bastage. I'm gonna take your dwork. I'm gonna nail it to the wall. I'm gonna crush your boils in a meat grinder. I'm gonna cut off your arms. I'm gonna shove 'em up your icehole. Dirty son-a-ma-batches. My own club!”

[Cid_Yama]

Sounds more like a threat than an insult.

[AdTheNad]

I still like the old classic:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')our Mother Was a Hamster and Your Father Smelt of Elderberries!

[Lore]

Yeah, your right except for the, "“You fargin sneaky bastage.", part, or when Roman goes on to say:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves."

[Pops]

Thanks doc, shill or not I'll still glad you come around and take this in return for some insight on the actual workings of the biz.

[americandream]

Basically Rockdock, this cult of the expert that we all labour under in the West is pure bunkum. We have largely prospered as a social economy for having inherited such a vast treasure trove of commodities in the colonies that one would have to have been an absolute ignoramus to not proesper, especially given the Protestant culture of work and personal gain we took with us to these foreign shores.

However, as the goodies run out, the experts are being shown up for the lazy incompetents they often are. We have ample evidence these past few years of that laziness. You evidently haven't done your homework (which does not take much as all this stuff is in the public domain) or you would not be on here arguing the unarguable.

Couple that to the idiocy of relying on a crazy place like Saudi Arabia to prop up the whole Western JIT edifice, and it's clear that the "experts" are barking bloody mad.

[Cid_Yama]

Rockdoc, I do need to address one part of your ad hominem attack since you have said it more than once.

I do have a number of degrees, but guess what, not one of them is in Religious Studies. Imagine that.

I do know alot about most of the world's religions. Being a good diplomat requires you to understand how the person you are negotiating with sees the world. That world view is always embedded in the religious beliefs of the person.

Thus, my knowledge of various religions. Thank you for the opportunity to clear that up.

[rockdoc123]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')owever, as the goodies run out, the experts are being shown up for the lazy incompetents they often are. We have ample evidence these past few years of that laziness. You evidently haven't done your homework (which does not take much as all this stuff is in the public domain) or you would not be on here arguing the unarguable.

[Cid_Yama]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rockdoc123', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')owever, as the goodies run out, the experts are being shown up for the lazy incompetents they often are. We have ample evidence these past few years of that laziness. You evidently haven't done your homework (which does not take much as all this stuff is in the public domain) or you would not be on here arguing the unarguable.

[rockdoc123]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')e just hasn't done his homework in several years.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rockdoc123', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')owever, as the goodies run out, the experts are being shown up for the lazy incompetents they often are. We have ample evidence these past few years of that laziness. You evidently haven't done your homework (which does not take much as all this stuff is in the public domain) or you would not be on here arguing the unarguable.

[seahorse3]

Whatever happened to the days when SA said $30bl was a good price?

If they can bring prices down, why don't they? Because, as a layman, I believe it when I see it, meaning, gas goes back down to the good old days of 1999 when it was $1 a gallon, the world economy was growing, the dollar was strong, we ran balanced budgets, and would have paid of our national debts by last year (2010). I scratch my head and ask, what the hell just happened? Its hard for me to be optimistic about the oil situation because we just can't seem to live without it, and, despite all the "optimism" about how much is under the ground, the price of up goes up. So, until they produce it in mass, the price of oil won't go down. Until they produce in mass, then, I just don't see us returning the the glory days. It's hard for me to take all this optimism seriously when SA produced more in 1980 than it does today, when oil has gone up steadily from 2000 despite all the untapped reserves. Seeing is believing.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse3', 'W')hatever happened to the days when SA said $30bl was a good price?

If they can bring prices down, why don't they? Because, as a layman, I believe it when I see it, meaning, gas goes back down to the good old days of 1999 when it was $1 a gallon, the world economy was growing, the dollar was strong, we ran balanced budgets, and would have paid of our national debts by last year (2010). I scratch my head and ask, what the hell just happened? Its hard for me to be optimistic about the oil situation because we just can't seem to live without it, and, despite all the "optimism" about how much is under the ground, the price of up goes up. So, until they produce it in mass, the price of oil won't go down. Until they produce in mass, then, I just don't see us returning the the glory days. It's hard for me to take all this optimism seriously when SA produced more in 1980 than it does today, when oil has gone up steadily from 2000 despite all the untapped reserves. Seeing is believing.

[seahorse3]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')im Sinclair’s Commentary

World changing events are taking place in the oil rich Middle East.

Peak oil has passed. The economic dominance of the West is now history.

Those that have planned and organized the Middle East events are those that benefit here and there from chaos and $500 crude.