[evgeny]

One of the myths of the twentieth century was the myth that the United States there is indeed a powerful and, most importantly, efficient army (land forces), which corresponds to great-power status.

Strictly speaking, this is not surprising, because the history of the U.S. and its army rests on myths from the very beginning of their occurrence.

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[dsula]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evgeny', 'O')ne of the myths of the twentieth century was the myth that the United States there is indeed a powerful and, most importantly, efficient army (land forces), which corresponds to great-power status.

[NoWorries]

The US military today is not that powerful, IF you're talking about conventional war forces, and if you're looking at historical comparisons (eg--Germany in 1930s, Britain in the 1800s, USA in 1950s, etc.).

Leaving fighting doctrines aside (ie--the debacle that was Vietnam) the US has relatively small force numbers when compared with, say, Russia, or China.

Besides, they're spread too thin; way too many outposts.

[obixman]

The US Army has since the second world war adopted the posture of a small force but with extremely high tech. As an example - the artillery (and by expansion our rocket forces) have alsway been amongst the best int he world since the 1780's. The combined arms battle the US - and ONLY the US has trained for - would stun almost every other army. The Iraqi's were well trained in the Soviet techniques and they were - well -embarassing - to their trainers.

The other thing that has been the case since WWII is that we train our soldiers in the best way possible - we actually use our weapons and use the actual equipment in training - enough to where we wear out and replace our vehicles - no one else except Britian comes close.


Having said that, the US, like most other armies, fields a terrible officer corps when war starts - those skills which make an excellent warrior/leader are generally a hinderance or create problems in the peacetime army. That being said we are/have been winnowing out our offricers/ non-coms now in two wars.

Man for man - right now, my bets would be on the US army.

[evgeny]

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Man for man - right now, my bets would be on the US army.

[evgeny]

Any lessons from its regular mistakes and defects in the device of indigenous armed forces, identified by fighting in Grenada, the Americans, of course, not removed - due to total absence in Anglo-Saxon character of the propensity to self-criticism. And so after 6 years - in 1989 in Panama - again came on the same rake. Although during the war with Panamanians appeared and something new - for example, the excessive number of cases of fire on his own, which the Americans were "gently" called "friendly fire" and that after Panama became a strong tradition of the American army during the fighting.

But because Americans are too directly understand the principle of "everybody loves a winner," after his controversial victory in Grenada and in Panama they are no measures to address the underlying flaws of its armed forces were not taken. Instead - once again: "The usual arrogance of Americans, this win lifted to unprecedented heights, continues to hold at a level that does not correspond to the results achieved. Neither turns out unprepared troops, nor the slow pace of military action - nothing can quench the appetites of the flared." These reports prompt the Russian consul in New York VA Teplova from 04.06.1898 of the first results of the Spanish-American War, vividly characterized the situation in the U.S. that has developed after 1992, in 1990, "We finally overcame the Vietnam syndrome" - joyfully shouted the Americans.

[evgeny]

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Man for man - right now, my bets would be on the US army.

[Sys1]

Regarding USA, the better is the U.S. Army, the worse it will be for Americans as civils unrests will start soon. Regarding man to man fight, I think the comments are quite close from what could came out of a boxe match. It's pure entertainment.
If a World war III occurs, it will be a thermonuclear apocalypse and all the muscles of GI Joe and his wife Britney will be vaporized in the matter of a millisecond.

[Keith_McClary]

Cloudflare

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', 'p')oltical correctness and general liberal BS

[evgeny]

U.S. soldiers accused of murder "for fun"

A group of American soldiers charged in the killings of civilians in Afghanistan "for fun". The soldiers chose the victim at random. Element of "hunting" was the need to avoid punishment for murder.

It turned out that his plan U.S. soldier was first implemented on January 15 in the Afghan countryside. They killed them got in the way of a civilian to fake an attack on itself: one of the marines threw a grenade and then opened the rest of the imaginary terrorist fire.

In addition to the killings, the soldiers were engaged in dismembering and photographing the dead bodies, as well as collecting the skulls and other bones of their victims. The investigation found that military commanders ignored reports of atrocities committed by his subordinates. According to The Washington Post, the father of one of the soldiers tried to warn the army chiefs of "habit" of the soldiers, but army chiefs did not listen to his story.

As a result of inaction Command from January to May 2010, five soldiers with impunity, committed three murders in the Afghan province of Kandahar. Representatives of the U.S. Army refused to comment on the behavior of American soldiers.

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evgeny', '
')First of all, it was found that during the landing was shot down about a hundred of transport helicopters. And almost all of downed helicopters were on board from 15 to 30 people and 3-5 crew members. Thus, even if not all downed helicopter were killed, and even then only on the number of dead downed helicopter was supposed to be about 2 thousand.

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('obixman', 'T')he US Army has since the second world war adopted the posture of a small force but with extremely high tech.

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NoWorries', 'T')he US military today is not that powerful, IF you're talking about conventional war forces, and if you're looking at historical comparisons (eg--Germany in 1930s, Britain in the 1800s, USA in 1950s, etc.).

[dorlomin]

So Evengy how many Afghanis did your dad kill in the 80s and how many germans did your grandad rape in the 40s?

[seahorse3]

evgeny,

You're only problem is you believe any hype about "superior" militaries. War is nothing but loss. There are no heros. Even your beloved Russians have embarrassed themselves in Grozny, 2000, shooting each other, poor training, poor hygene, the list goes on. Just do an internet search for Lessons Learned in Grozny.

http://www.artofficial-intelligence.com/Grozny.html

Then, the infamous "Custer's Last Stand" by those Russian paratroopers was viewed by every outside observer as a horrible defeat brought about by incompetence, even initially by the Russian military, but now they paper over that defeat by awarding medals and re-writing history as a big victory - this shouldn't surprise anyone, every military does it. Those guys got massacred. Only seven soldiers survived. For anyone interested, just do a wiki search.

[DoomersUnite]

I'm not sure the original poster knows anything at all about history, particularly that of the US military. I mean, the look on Saddam's face alone would seem to indicate someone who thought the US military was all myth as well. Him or Baghdad Bob.

[evgeny]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', 'S')o Evengy how many Afghanis did your dad kill in the 80s and how many germans did your grandad rape in the 40s?

[evgeny]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse3', 'e')vgeny,

You're only problem is you believe any hype about "superior" militaries. War is nothing but loss. There are no heros. Even your beloved Russians have embarrassed themselves in Grozny, 2000, shooting each other, poor training, poor hygene, the list goes on. Just do an internet search for Lessons Learned in Grozny.

http://www.artofficial-intelligence.com/Grozny.html

Then, the infamous "Custer's Last Stand" by those Russian paratroopers was viewed by every outside observer as a horrible defeat brought about by incompetence, even initially by the Russian military, but now they paper over that defeat by awarding medals and re-writing history as a big victory - this shouldn't surprise anyone, every military does it. Those guys got massacred. Only seven soldiers survived. For anyone interested, just do a wiki search.

[Cloud9]

Anyone can be taken unawares. That being said, we have eleven Nimitz class carriers any one of which could turn a country the size of France into a parking lot. Then we have a fleet of nuclear submarines and then last but not least we have about thirty million rednecks that would like nothing better than open season on pick an enemy.

If you are worried about China, remember that they have to get here across the bearing straights which will be more than likely glowing in the dark.