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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Tue 22 Feb 2011, 23:02:38

See The Giving Pledge.

Pledge is to direct one's fortune towards philanthopic projects of one's choosing.

Mine is to battle wage slavers and their moronic supporters, such as yourself.

Specifically, exposing you and your ilk for what you are and supporting labor causes.

My goal is to see your type get what's coming to you before the next 10 years is up, and I can guarantee you it won't be a check.

It will be my final good work before the end of the world. And I will relish it.
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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby Xenophobe » Tue 22 Feb 2011, 23:24:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', '
')Mine is to battle wage slavers and their moronic supporters, such as yourself.


So...you only are worried about social justice for people you like....which sounds like standard ruling elite fare to me. You guys get the bailouts, you guys get the tax breaks, you guys lounge around paying illegals to raise your kids, landscape your lawn, and then hold some charity ball or create a foundation (all of which is undoubtedly tax net positive on your 1040's, right? :lol: ).

Oh yeah...I can just FEEL the love from your socio-economic class.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', '
')My goal is to see your type get what's coming to you in the next 10 years, and I can guarantee you it won't be a check.


Well, at least thats honest. Screw all us honest working people...of course....you announcing it isn't a surprise...WE already know this...why do you think us working dogs are protesting in Wisconsin?

Now run off and go shopping or bunker building or funding your private security force so the peons you look down upon can't take away what you have rightfully accumulated as part of the wealthy and ruling elite, and enjoy!
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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Tue 22 Feb 2011, 23:33:14

I intend to bring all the unions together into one network. Hopefully not too great a task for an ex-diplomat such as myself. One Nation, One Union! Then we'll start on the world.

No time for Croquet, looks like I'm going to be very busy.
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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby Xenophobe » Wed 23 Feb 2011, 00:09:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'I') intend to bring all the unions together into one network. Hopefully not too great a task for an ex-diplomat such as myself. One Nation, One Union! Then we'll start on the world.


Excellent! Now instead of a "how many union guys does it take to change a lightbulb" involving just 2 or 3, we can get the number to reflect your new concept. Lets see, a principle to supervise a teacher to educate the bulb installer/laborer in readin and writin the 12 pages of union required directions, a supervisor for the laborer to make sure he is complying with all applicable OSHA laws in all his actions, two other union ladder specialists to set the ladder correctly, another one to hand up the bulb once the installer is in position, and the union bookkeeper to make sure that everyone pays their dues from all their paychecks.

Go Cid! The more inefficient you make the system, the more someone will pay me to straighten it out again.
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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby Cog » Wed 23 Feb 2011, 01:08:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')id_Yama wrote:My goal is to see your type get what's coming to you in the next 10 years, and I can guarantee you it won't be a check.


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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby Oneaboveall » Wed 23 Feb 2011, 01:41:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '[')b]The problem with our educational system stems first of all from the attitude of the students parents, dumbos raising dumbos, which is beyond the control of the state, and the quality of the those doing the educating. The latter can be fixed right now, not by paying less, but by paying much more for qualified teachers. Rather then accept the bottom 10% of the losers like we do from our colleges as teachers we need to go after the top 10%.

None of the above has anything to do with whether they’re unionized or not.

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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby rangerone314 » Wed 23 Feb 2011, 02:57:30

Maybe what is needed instead of an Egypt-style revolution, is a French Revolution or a Civil War. Maybe, maybe not.

The guillotines in France resolved the "let them eat cake" mentality of the French wage slavers and aristocrats.

4 years and a quarter of a million dead Southerners resolved slavery whereas voting for 8 decades did not.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Robert A. Heinlein (Starship Troopers)', 'V')iolence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.


The issue this country faces is not about economic theory and dogma, it is about who is wielding power and who they are using it for.

Given the % of this country's wealth owned by the 1% is at an all-time high now since the Great Depression, I'd say it is obvious who is wielding power and who they are using it for.

I'm inclined to think that much of them have a shorter term perspective than their counterparts in the past: has it occurred to them what will happen when the American middle class has been hollowed out to a shell or do they simply plan to board yachts loaded with gold bars and leave the country? (If the latter, that does sort of resemble bloated leeches dropping off of their dead, blood-drained host)
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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby Oakley » Wed 23 Feb 2011, 07:10:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'M')aybe what is needed instead of an Egypt-style revolution, is a French Revolution or a Civil War. Maybe, maybe not.

The guillotines in France resolved the "let them eat cake" mentality of the French wage slavers and aristocrats.

4 years and a quarter of a million dead Southerners resolved slavery whereas voting for 8 decades did not.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Robert A. Heinlein (Starship Troopers)', 'V')iolence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.


The issue this country faces is not about economic theory and dogma, it is about who is wielding power and who they are using it for.

Given the % of this country's wealth owned by the 1% is at an all-time high now since the Great Depression, I'd say it is obvious who is wielding power and who they are using it for.

I'm inclined to think that much of them have a shorter term perspective than their counterparts in the past: has it occurred to them what will happen when the American middle class has been hollowed out to a shell or do they simply plan to board yachts loaded with gold bars and leave the country? (If the latter, that does sort of resemble bloated leeches dropping off of their dead, blood-drained host)


You don't need to wish for violent social upheaval; it is already on the way:

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest- ... revolution

It is a simple principle that if the pain of civil disturbance is less than the pain from going along with the then then current system of political plunder and control, violence will erupt. We need little to do but turn on our television news to see this principle in action. Egypt for example has lived under a military dictatorship since mid century and the level of tyranny has not changed. What has changed is the difficulty in surviving. Food is scarce for the bloated population, and the government cannot continue what meager food subsidy the people have been receiving. The government is broke because they can no longer export oil since the passed peak several years ago. And to make matters worse the Federal Reserve Bank in the USA is flooding the world with worthless paper, causing those things purchased with US dollars to rise in price; the FED is doing this in an attempt to save from collapse the fraudulent monetary system that enslaves us all to the banks and other Wall Street special interests.

If people in the USA understood the degree to which they are being fleeced, they would be up in arms, but the level of ignorance is too great, and we just quibble over which wing of the Demo/Republican party should currently occupy the seats of power. No matter which is in power, the fleecing continues; this monetary system has been in place since 1913, all the while Republicans and Democrats have alternatively held power and done nothing but continue the fraud.

But real pain is coming to the US and this time it will not just be a hiccup in the monetary system. It will be this hiccup superimposed on the energy scarcity driven waining industrial age. No government will survive what is coming. Starvation, lack of shelter, high taxes, and lack of medical care have a way of making people rebellious.
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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Wed 23 Feb 2011, 12:52:08

Are people getting a handle on who they are angry at? For a few months, I've challenged any Tea Party ranters on whether they were prepared to take on the GOP, and increasingly they are. But I have always told them I think that they are merely puppets of big business and especially Arab controlled power blocs like the Bushes and Fox News. This seems to be gradually sinking in.

But who do you hate? The Soviets hated the middle class and got the peasants and factory workers to purge the landowners. Hitler protected the middle class but focused his party's hatred on minorities. The modern GOP has a similar hatred of minorities that, like the Nazis, it justifies with elaborate conspiracy theories. And we see Glenn Beck being consumed by his growing obsession with the Jews.

Look at Walkers focus on teachers. This seems to have sort of Maoist taint with a hint of the Khmer Rogue. Sure, Hitler was relentless in his hatred of "eggheads," but it was the Khmer Rogue that wanted to wipe out teachers.

So who are you angry at? The gummint doesn't control a whole lot these days. Scott Walker is a puppet of the people that make Brawny paper towels.

And when people across the political spectrum fantasize about class warfare, they seem to assume that the army will be in the middle of it. Of course, the far right wingers believe that they are the armed forces, especially the ones that were draft dodgers. And they think the police are completely loyal to them, but they are so crazy that now they are calling the cops "communists." One thing Wisconsin should be showing the elites is that their propaganda about "We surround them" was merely a slogan, and that the police and National Guard have no dog in the fight they are trying to pick. Transpose the Egyptian conflict to America, and who would take the place of Mubaraks thugs? Glenn Becks audience of 70 year olds?
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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby Ferretlover » Wed 23 Feb 2011, 18:45:04

So... which state will be the first to order martial law because the legislaturers aren't playing well with the others?
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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 23 Feb 2011, 19:12:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', 'S')o... which state will be the first to order martial law because the legislaturers aren't playing well with the others?



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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby Cloud9 » Wed 23 Feb 2011, 20:06:14

Looks like one Debuty Attorney General just lost his job for suggesting that protesters should be shot.

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/02 ... protesters
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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby Fishman » Wed 23 Feb 2011, 20:22:11

And not a darn thing happened to the Mass. Rep that said the protesters should "get a little bloody".

Correction
The modern DNC has a similar hatred of anyone who has, or produces jobs, that, like the Commies, it justifies with elaborate conspiracy theories. And we see MSNBC being consumed by its growing obsession with people who actually produce jobs (course, no one watches them anymore)
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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 23 Feb 2011, 20:28:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', '
')The modern DNC has a similar hatred of anyone who has, or produces jobs



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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby Fishman » Wed 23 Feb 2011, 20:32:13

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Thank you so much. I do so love softball pitches http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... -necessary

Would you like the recent post where union thugs beat someone they disagreed with also?
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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 23 Feb 2011, 20:36:28

I was asking for evidence the DNC hates anyone with a job.
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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby Lore » Wed 23 Feb 2011, 20:38:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', 'A')nd not a darn thing happened to the Mass. Rep that said the protesters should "get a little bloody".

Correction
The modern DNC has a similar hatred of anyone who has, or produces jobs, that, like the Commies, it justifies with elaborate conspiracy theories. And we see MSNBC being consumed by its growing obsession with people who actually produce jobs (course, no one watches them anymore)
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Coming from a state like NC, you should be aware of who took the jobs and closed the textile mills and woodworking factories. Business was quick to take a hike overseas for cheaper labor leaving factory workers, that were already making sub-par wages, to sit and pound salt. So who is producing jobs, not business in your state, besides, econ 101, they're not there to make jobs, but profits for their investors. So, don't count on them.

Funny enough, all you have left down there is the fat cat bankers. I'd be turning my scrutiny on them.
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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 23 Feb 2011, 21:01:55

Two more days until the runaway democrat legislators cost the state of Wisconsin 160 million dollars.

Doesn't even one of the democrats have enough sense and integrity to return to Wisconsin and do his job so the state can refinance its debt and save 160 million dollars?

Would Diogenes be able to find even one honest man among the Wisconsin democrats?
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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby Lore » Wed 23 Feb 2011, 21:14:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')wo more days until the runaway democrat legislators cost the state of Wisconsin 160 million dollars.

Doesn't even one of the democrats have enough sense and integrity to return to Wisconsin and do his job so the state can refinance its debt and save 160 million dollars?

Would Diogenes be able to find even one honest man among the Wisconsin democrats?


Why should they, after Scott Walker just got duped in a prank call to spill the beans that he has no intention of any negotiation. He just wants to get them back for a quorum so he can ramrod through the legislation. Only a fool would voluntarily show up for their own hanging.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ASHINGTON -- Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's (R) phone conversation may have been with a fake "David Koch," but it's had real consequences for his relationships with lawmakers and his plan to push through a budget repair bill. In fact, one Democratic lawmaker said that if Walker's grand master plan hadn't been revealed in the call, it might have even worked.

One of the most interesting parts of Walker's conversation -- a prank call by a blogger from The Buffalo Beast pretending to be the billionaire David Koch -- was when he revealed his plan to hoodwink the state's Senate Democrats, who fled Wisconsin in order to prevent their Republican colleagues from reaching the quorum needed to pass budget measures.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/2 ... 27367.html
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Re: Wisconsin protests: Egypt in America?

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 23 Feb 2011, 21:34:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '
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He just wants to get them back for a quorum so he can ramrod through the legislation.



I guess he is what is considered "an honest man."

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