[rangerone314]

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[rangerone314]

Personally I do think that far too much money is budgeted to Federal, local AND state governments; and that much of the time, government is a solution that is looking for a problem.

But, I do find it amusing when rich people complain about taxes; it is like a serial rapist complaining about the quality of his sex life.

Oswald Spengler ("Decline of the West") wrote in the 1920's essentially that the greater the income inequity in a society (like presently exists in the USA compared to Europe and Japan), the more the rich will be focused on political issues dealing with money. Seems like we are there. He also said that money by owning the media creates opinion rather than presenting facts, and that the education system will be dumbed down so that instead of independent thinkers we will essentially have mindless drones with just enough education to understand the programming presented to them in the money-owned media so they believe what the wealthy want them to believe.

How about I agree to pay 3X the taxes in exchange for making 4X as much money before taxes?

Oh, and how about doing something about commodity inflation (mainly food and energy), which is in part due to rich people having too much money available to invest and speculate with?

[Cid_Yama]

Friends with Low Wages

[sparky]

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The pension laws in Australia make it compulsory to contribute 5% to a sealed retirement fund ,
the employer ( even for public servants )also contribute 5% but the employee can choose the fund , which is tax free after a time limit
There is the government pension of course but one can get very thin on it
.

[Oneaboveall]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '.')..executive bonuses in the millions and the search for the quick profit by sending jobs overseas has been much more devastating to this country than excessive compensation to union workers. I hear nary a whine as those same people crucifying unions stand by quietly was wall street bankers have raped both their companies and the tax payers of this once great country.

[Cid_Yama]

After watching Friends with Low Wages a couple times, it appears to be an uncredited Jib-Jab. It's in their style.

[gollum]

I was just watching a Good Morning America segment on extreme birthday parties for kids, with some of these parents spending 15-30k on birthday parties for kids, yea it's obviously time for taxes to go up on the rich and for teachers to make at least a decent wage!

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/parents-spend ... d=12961352

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'I') was just watching a Good Morning America segment on extreme birthday parties for kids, with some of these parents spending 15-30k on birthday parties for kids, yea it's obviously time for taxes to go up on the rich and for teachers to make at least a decent wage!

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/parents-spend ... d=12961352

[Livewire713]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'I') was just watching a Good Morning America segment on extreme birthday parties for kids, with some of these parents spending 15-30k on birthday parties for kids, yea it's obviously time for taxes to go up on the rich and for teachers to make at least a decent wage!

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/parents-spend ... d=12961352

[gollum]

I gotta say republicans talking about spending is like the shit covered pig telling the farmer his shirt is dirty and he should go change, only difference between "tax and spend" democrats and republicans is that al least democrats are willing to pay for it instead of borrowing, and at least some of the wasted money gets spent here and benefits Americans.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'Y')ou had your chance last election cycle to get more tax and spend Democrats. You blew it and you need to take your beating like a man and quit bitching about it.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'Y')ou had your chance last election cycle to get more tax and spend Democrats. You blew it and you need to take your beating like a man and quit bitching about it.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '
')That doesn't make a whole hell of lot of sense. If you voted and the opposition won, your suppose to sit quiet and not work for change? What kind of democracy are you talking about here?

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'Y')ou had your chance last election cycle to get more tax and spend Democrats. You blew it and you need to take your beating like a man and quit bitching about it.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '.').only difference between "tax and spend" democrats and republicans is that al least democrats are willing to pay for it instead of borrowing...

[gollum]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '.').only difference between "tax and spend" democrats and republicans is that al least democrats are willing to pay for it instead of borrowing...

[Timo]

When Republicans aer in command at any level, their mantra is "United we Stand," and anyone who is not with them is labeled a traitor. When Democrats are in command at any level, the Republican practice is to divide and conquer. Republicans have a very poor record of actually addressing the needs of this country. They lied to get us into a war we didn't need. They turned their base against blacks, and then communists, and then welfare recipients, and then gays, and managaed to get the word "liberal" associated as a derogatory name. Now it's public workers against private sector workers. The term United we Stand is only a convenience for them to mobilize the public into supporting the topic de jour. The debts started under Reagan, but the Republicans managed to evade the topic by concocting the Iran Contra scandel. Bush II didn't budget a penny for either of the wars he started, and now the same party conveniently blames Obama for trying to clean up that mess. Democrats aren't very effective at cleaning up after the Republicans, but the absolutely do have the nation's best interests in mind. Republicans put party first, then God, then their own political positions, then family, then their vacation homes in some other country. The U.S. public good is a nuisance for them to consider. They will create villians in order to get more and more and more and more powers exclusively for themselves.

I very sincerely doubt that any collection of so called "leaders" in this country could together wite a new constitution that even remotely resembled the one we have now. Any constitution created today could only be approved by a new revolutionary war, American against American. God bless us all!!

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '
')
It is republicans who have consistently given tax breaks to not just the rich but the top 1%, holding middle class tax rates hostage in order to do that.

[gollum]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '
')
It is republicans who have consistently given tax breaks to not just the rich but the top 1%, holding middle class tax rates hostage in order to do that.

[Timo]

Everyone remember Gingerich's Contract with America? That was the Union of the Republican Controlled Congress setting the standards under which they would operate. Actually, to be quite literal about that, what they did was adopt the Dictate to America. American's had no choice in the matter, but still they chose to call it a contract because a "contract" was easily understood by the stupid American public. Well, now contracts are null and void if it happens to have any union involvement. Their mantra now is every American citizen for himself. And the rich people. All for one, and one for one. One for all is just socialist. We can't have that here in America, the land of the beligerant.