[gollum]

I think it's absolutely great to see middle class people getting involved in supporting their own interests in this country and not getting sidetracked on abortion, gun control, or Obama's birthplace. I also agree with Ludi who posted that the working class should call a general strike. I think the tea party was a great thing before it was taken over by nutty establishment republicans, and it's nice to see them outnumbered 100 to one in these protests!

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'I') think it's absolutely great to see middle class people getting involved in supporting their own interests in this country and not getting sidetracked on abortion, gun control, or Obama's birthplace. I also agree with Ludi who posted that the working class should call a general strike. I think the tea party was a great thing before it was taken over by nutty establishment republicans, and it's nice to see them outnumbered 100 to one in these protests!

[Plantagenet]

What would the general strike be calling for?

Do you expect the working class to strike to protect the teacher's refusal to contribute to their pension and healthcare plans when the working class doesn't have these benefits for themselves?

[Homesteader]

Good points. The fact is there are limits.

The future is getting more equitablly distributed.

[Serial_Worrier]

The American people are not buying the slavery meme. It's-Not-Working.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', '
')The future is getting more equitablly distributed.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', 'T')he American people are not buying the slavery meme. It's-Not-Working.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', ' ')I also agree with Ludi who posted that the working class should call a general strike.

[gollum]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', ' ')I also agree with Ludi who posted that the working class should call a general strike.

[Homesteader]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', '
')The future is getting more equitablly distributed.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'I') think it's absolutely great to see middle class people getting involved in supporting their own interests in this country and not getting sidetracked on abortion, gun control, or Obama's birthplace. I also agree with Ludi who posted that the working class should call a general strike. I think the tea party was a great thing before it was taken over by nutty establishment republicans, and it's nice to see them outnumbered 100 to one in these protests!

[Homesteader]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', 'T')he American people are not buying the slavery meme. It's-Not-Working.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '
')Working class should call a general strike? They will stop doing... whatever is that they are doing? I dont think anyone will notice anything, since obviously they dont do much. Working class is living in China now. How good is your Chinese?

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', '
')The future is getting more equitablly distributed.

[PrestonSturges]

I've said this before - the GOP decided the best way to get petty tinpot dictators into office was to have them talk about "freedom" and "fighting tyranny."

This is a top-down form of Marxist dialectics.

The other tip off is that nowhere is there any sign of an actual plan, it's only about dismantling, looting and pillaging.You can try to make the same criticism of the Dems, but for the GOP it is all about destroy, destroy, destroy. And they are completely unresponsive to any criticism or question, and threatening to use the National guard wile talking about "freedom." This is dialectics.

The lunatics that are bankrolling the Tea Party don't believe in any sort of process or planning, they have some sort of hallucinated destiny that we are headed for. Just kicking everything over and smashing everything just moves us ever faster towards their utopian fantasy. This idea of inexorable destiny that will simply happen is called "materialism."

Together you have "dialectic materialism." The "diamat" is Marxism, and that's where the GOP and Tea Party are at.

[gollum]

I think what's becoming clear to a lot of people in all parts of the political spectrum, even though it may not apply specifically in this case, is that the wealthiest 1% of the population controlling the political and financial system is not capitalisim or democracy. As odd as it sounds that fact is what started the tea party before it was coopted, and it's whats finally getting workers in this country off their asses and on to the streets. I hope and suspect that the powers that be finally over played their hand when they attemped to destroy the right to collectivley bargain. There's a hell of a lot more people in the streets than a few disgruntled teachers, working people everywhere are alarmed and angry at this, and generally at the way the country has been run to constantly put the squeeze on working people be they union members or not.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '.')..destroy the right to collectivley bargain

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'I') think what's becoming clear to a lot of people in all parts of the political spectrum, even though it may not apply specifically in this case, is that the wealthiest 1% of the population controlling the political and financial system is not capitalisim or democracy.

[gollum]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'I') think what's becoming clear to a lot of people in all parts of the political spectrum, even though it may not apply specifically in this case, is that the wealthiest 1% of the population controlling the political and financial system is not capitalisim or democracy.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', ' ')The one regrettable aspect of all this is that it didn't happen years ago in the private sector and on a national level, where it should have.