[teotwawki]

Some believe that TBTP & Global Elite allowed Capitalism (and the rising tides that lifted the average economic/capitalistic slave's standard of living) to "run its course" because it suited those at the very top of the ponzi pyramid scheme/food chain, and like bacteria in a petri dish, when the "going was good", this kind of emulative anthropic Laissez-faire benefited the TBTP the most... and while yes it was good for the average citizen of one of the industrialized superpowers, that was just a mere byproduct side effect...

Since from all aspects (resource, energy, environment, economy, and even technology) we will have or had or soon will have "peaked"/climaxed/apex-ed/etc... This leaves those on the very top really just a few options..

TBTP can either pretend everything is "fine" and keep the illusion going for as LONG AS POSSIBLE, right up until things finally reach a breaking point, buckles, and TBTP then does an about-face and rapidly depopulate the global population of humans, spare a couple million of us to help them run the post-dieoff society, and that ways this "cannibalization" will ensure their survival for many more decades/centuries to come... this is resource conservation to the extreme.

And the fact that this forced depopulation hasn't yet happened could mean 1) we haven't quite reached that bifurcation point yet OR 2) they are planning something else... OR 3) stuff just happens and there is no all powerful TPTB

It goes like this. We go to school to learn, education is a mere means to an end.. to what end? To find a good job. But work is merely another means to an end. It is about money, and money translates into consumption.. resource consumption..

So the more we try to "fix the problem" the worse it will get. Resource depletion (due to over consumption) is the REASON why the eCONomy is in a bind. And yet our instinctive impulse is to look at the high unemployment rate as "bad" and that we need to "do" (usually amounts to consuming more resources or something equally wasteful) something to "fix" it. So more people go to school (thus increasing consumption) and we try to create more jobs (thus increasing consumption) and we do all this under the ostensible pretense of "fixing the economy"... As if we can "fix" over-consumption by indulging in even more over-consumption...

What is worse is back in the 70's most people didn't even NEED a college degree to find a livable wage job. Now a days everyone is getting higher and higher education degrees, just the job market is worse and worse... Even a PhD does not guarantee a job, much less a good paying job.. And yet everyone and their pet goldfish is going to school, retraining, et al... Education bubble or not, more real resources than every before are wasted on this, and yet to the detriment of all....

It is hard to believe that so many people still believe that "knowledge is power" and that we that we have transcended beyond the industrial age and into the "informational age of the connected economy" and that Omega Point is almost here and we shall witness convergence of singularity and all will be well.. As if this intellectualism was somehow disconnected from physicality. So many still want to beLIEve that work ethic is the way to prosperity... It essence everything we do translates into this contradiction: when each of us consumes more resources, all of us will have even more resources to consume. This might have held true on the up-slope of energy use, but alas not on the down-slope or decline of peak.

So the perfect economic plan goes like this:

1. Through use of strategic global monetary policy create an artificial global great depression much worse than anything anyone has ever seen before
2. As people start to die/starve/etc they will give up all rights, freedoms, expectations, ideologies, etc.. and will be especially mold-able and open to unorthodox suggestions. Consolidate into NWO.
3. Enact global policy to restrict to one-child-policy. Give economic incentives to those that waive the right to have children. Keep in place until global population down to 100 million.
4. Mandatory euthanasia at age ~55. Make this the global age limit cap for citizens and population.
5. Cease all advanced health-care treatments (reserve them only for the elite) this is not so much to save money and resources as it is to let nature take its course, and put evolution (or more accurately : pressures of natural selection ) back into the drivers seat.
6. Create self-perpetuating and self-sustaining robots and ai and electronic automation systems that produce much of the food, and necessities of survival for mankind in an automated set-and-forget kind of way that only requires minimum supervision and the occasional high level overseeing...
7. This means most the population can be as little as a couple of million of workers and the elite can still sustain themselves and the fabric society can still be intact.
8. Other than learning how to operate and maintain the equipment, most people will never need to learn, go to school, work, etc...



Or the elite TBTP might have a better plan. Their plan is not to have a plan. They are probably waiting for the perfect moment to flip the switch and then.....

[americandream]

An high net worth investor who has grown accustomed to a return of 10% minimum on his investment is not going to forego this for a steady state 2% in order to secure the system that grants him that return. Gluttony and stupidity is the name of the game with these cretins and they will be equally as surprised as all the other dolts are when collapse ensues.

[teotwawki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'A')n high net worth investor who has grown accustomed to a return of 10% minimum on his investment is not going to forego this for a steady state 2% in order to secure the system that grants him that return. Gluttony and stupidity is the name of the game with these cretins and they will be equally as surprised as all the other dolts are when collapse ensues.

[SeaGypsy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'A')n high net worth investor who has grown accustomed to a return of 10% minimum on his investment is not going to forego this for a steady state 2% in order to secure the system that grants him that return. Gluttony and stupidity is the name of the game with these cretins and they will be equally as surprised as all the other dolts are when collapse ensues.

[Sys1]

It's not a global strategy. That's a jungle where lions are bigger than savan.
Welcome to the jungle!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr7EBuz- ... re=related

[SeaGypsy]

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4. Mandatory euthanasia at age ~55. Make this the global age limit cap for citizens and population.

5. Cease all advanced health-care treatments (reserve them only for the elite) this is not so much to save money and resources as it is to let nature take its course, and put evolution

.....

[americandream]

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4. Mandatory euthanasia at age ~55. Make this the global age limit cap for citizens and population.

5. Cease all advanced health-care treatments (reserve them only for the elite) this is not so much to save money and resources as it is to let nature take its course, and put evolution

.....

[SeaGypsy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('teotwawki', '
')What is worse is back in the 70's most people didn't even NEED a college degree to find a livable wage job......

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'A')n high net worth investor who has grown accustomed to a return of 10% minimum on his investment is not going to forego this for a steady state 2% in order to secure the system that grants him that return. Gluttony and stupidity is the name of the game with these cretins and they will be equally as surprised as all the other dolts are when collapse ensues.

[Hawkcreek]

Not perfectly logical to me. There should be no need to kill the old if you don't allow them any advanced healthcare. The ones who live, in spite of the lack of care, might contribute something to the group.
In other words if you implement # 5, you don't need # 4.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('teotwawki', '
')6. Create self-perpetuating and self-sustaining robots and ai and electronic automation systems that produce much of the food, and necessities of survival for mankind in an automated set-and-forget kind of way that only requires minimum supervision and the occasional high level overseeing...

[SeaGypsy]

Read the other blatherings of TEOTWAWKI? He reminds me of William Buroughs 'Cut Up' technique.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('teotwawki', '
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4. Mandatory euthanasia at age ~55. Make this the global age limit cap for citizens and population.

5. Cease all advanced health-care treatments (reserve them only for the elite) this is not so much to save money and resources as it is to let nature take its course, and put evolution

.....

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('teotwawki', '
')6. Create self-perpetuating and self-sustaining robots and ai and electronic automation systems that produce much of the food, and necessities of survival for mankind in an automated set-and-forget kind of way that only requires minimum supervision and the occasional high level overseeing...

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '
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Reminds me of this:

[teotwawki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hawkcreek', 'N')ot perfectly logical to me. There should be no need to kill the old if you don't allow them any advanced healthcare. The ones who live, in spite of the lack of care, might contribute something to the group.
In other words if you implement # 5, you don't need # 4.

[teotwawki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('teotwawki', '
')What is worse is back in the 70's most people didn't even NEED a college degree to find a livable wage job......

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')rior to condoms and contraceptives people had natural unprotected sex all the time and yet the population never exploded like it did until in modern times. This is due to there being more food (agricultural revolution), much higher standards of living (in part thanks to technology and computing) and also better medicine and health-care practices.

[teotwawki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('teotwawki', '
')
4. Mandatory euthanasia at age ~55. Make this the global age limit cap for citizens and population.

5. Cease all advanced health-care treatments (reserve them only for the elite) this is not so much to save money and resources as it is to let nature take its course, and put evolution

.....

[teotwawki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')rior to condoms and contraceptives people had natural unprotected sex all the time and yet the population never exploded like it did until in modern times. This is due to there being more food (agricultural revolution), much higher standards of living (in part thanks to technology and computing) and also better medicine and health-care practices.