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Severe cold to cause produce shortage over next few months

Unread postby Sixstrings » Sun 13 Feb 2011, 07:37:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')ood inflation driven by freezing weather in Florida during December and in Mexico during February, is hitting the US supermarkets in the coming day’s. Sysco sent out an alert that announced an “Act of God”, to address their contracted supply issues.

The cold of the Superbowl weekend in Texas, has had a more lasting impact than on just the game plans for lots of travelers. The deep cold sank into the produce fields of northern Mexico, destroying fresh produce crops. This is the biggest page 16 story, about to hit a headline, that you have seen in a while. Your restaurants will be low on fresh produces for weeks. They will have to raise prices significantly or cut the produce out of the menu.

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This event will push up the price of produce in the US for the next few months. The bigger question is if the US wheat crop was damaged by the cold weather before the heavy snow fell to blanket it.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/sysco-declares-force-majeure-raises-grocery-prices


Letter form Sysco foods to its customers:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')LL OF OUR GROWERS HAVE INVOKED THE ACT OF GOD CLAUSE ON OUR CONTRACTS (Force majuere) DUE TO THE FOLLOWING RELEASE. WE WILL BE CONTACTING YOU PERSONALLY TO REVIEW HOW THIS WILL AFFECT OUR CONTRACTED ITEMS WITH YOU GOING FORWARD.

THE DEVASTATING FREEZE IN MEXICO IS WORST FREEZE IN OVER 50 YEARS...

THE EXTREME FREEZING TEMPERATURES HIT A VERY BROAD SECTION OF MAJOR GROWING REGIONS IN MEXICO, FROM HERMOSILLO IN THE NORTH ALL THE WAY SOUTH TO LOS MOCHIS AND EVEN SOUTH OF CULIACAN. THE EARLY REPORTS ARE STILL COMING IN BUT MOST ARE SHOWING LOSSES OF CROPS IN THE RANGE OF 80 TO 100%.

EVEN SHADE HOUSE PRODUCT WAS HIT BY THE EXTREMELY COLD TEMPS. IT WILL TAKE 7-10 DAYS TO HAVE A CLEARER PICTURE FROM GROWERS AND FIELD SUPERVISORS, BUT THESE GROWING REGIONS HAVEN'T HAD COLD LIKE THIS IN OVER A HALF CENTURY.

THIS TIME OF YEAR, MEXICO SUPPLIES A SIGNIFICANT PERCENT OF NORTH AMERICA'S ROW CROP VEGETABLES SUCH AS: GREEN BEANS, EGGPLANT, CUCUMBERS, SQUASH, PEPPERS, ASPARAGUS, AND ROUND AND ROMA TOMATOES.

FLORIDA NORMALLY IS A MAJOR SUPPLIER FOR THESE ITEMS AS WELL BUT THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN STRUCK WITH SEVERE FREEZE DAMAGE IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY AND UP UNTIL NOW HAVE HAD TO PURCHASE PRODUCT OUT OF MEXICO TO FILL THEIR COMMITMENTS, THAT IS NO LONGER AND OPTION.


WITH THE SERIES OF WEATHER DISASTERS THAT HAS OCCURRED IN BOTH OF THESE MAJOR GROWING AREAS WE WILL EXPERIENCE IMMEDIATE VOLATILE PRICES, EXPECTED LIMITED AVAILABILITY, AND MEDIOCRE QUALITY AT BEST.

THIS WILL NOT ONLY HAVE AN IMMEDIATE IMPACT ON SUPPLIES, BUT BECAUSE OF VERY STRONG BLOSSOM DROPS, THIS WILL ALSO IMPACT SUPPLIES 30 – 60 DAYS FROM NOW. SOME GROWERS ARE MEETING WITH THEIR BOARDS RIGHT NOW TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEY SHOULD IMMEDIATELY RE-PLANT, HOPING FOR A HARVEST BY LATE-MARCH-TO-EARLY-APRIL, OR WHETHER THEY SHOULD DISC THE FIELDS UNDER AND WAIT FOR ANOTHER SEASON.

We are doing everything we can with our growers to minimize the
effect of this disaster on you. With the unprecedented magnitude
of this event we wanted to immediately make you aware of the
conditions. We will continue to send out communications as our
people on the ground report back to us. We thank you and we
appreciate your understanding during this time.

Sysco Intermountain
http://www.iceagenow.com/Mexico_crop_loss_80_to_100_percent.htm

PDF of the flier sent out to customers:
http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/11_Cosmic/110209.Sysco.Mexico.Freeze.pdf


Ok farm experts.. how serious is this? Just high prices, or real shortage?
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Re: Severe cold to cause produce shortage over next few mont

Unread postby copious.abundance » Sun 13 Feb 2011, 20:32:18

Not this again.

Remember last February when there was a freeze in Florida which wiped out a big chunk of the tomato crop, and for a while the price of tomatoes went through the roof and when you went to a fast-food place if you wanted tomatoes on your burger you had to tell them explicitly?

Guess what? Just 4 months later farmers suddenly found themselves with a glut of tomatoes and the price crashed.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')eff Dolan's tomatoes in San Joaquin Valley are ripening and ready to pick this week. But that puts him in a pickle.

In California, harvest time is arriving just as tomato growers in other parts of the U.S. are reeling from a sudden supply glut that is pushing the price for fresh tomatoes sharply lower. Florida farmers who fetched more than $30 a few months ago for a 25-pound box of round, fresh field-grown tomatoes, also known as slicer tomatoes, are now getting $5 or less.

The abundant crop is rooted in last winter's cold weather in Florida, which delayed the development of tomato plants. The overdue harvest hit the market in May just as DiMare Co., where Mr. Dolan oversees California field operations, was picking tomatoes near Palm Springs.

Same thing will happen again.

Not as sure about the wheat crop, depends on the weather in Russia, Australia, Argentina and elsewhere.
Stuff for doomers to contemplate:
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Re: Severe cold to cause produce shortage over next few mont

Unread postby sparky » Mon 14 Feb 2011, 02:18:02

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Basically world food is grains , wheat , rice corn and "coarse" IE buckwheat , barley , shorgun ..etc..etc
the vegs and fruits are important locally but not worldwide , except as local cash crop

production keep beating records but it barely keep up with unrelenting rise in consumption
the underlying problems are that farming land is encroached by urban sprawl , soil degradation and energy crop production
the production numbers are above 2.2 millions tonnes a year to break even
last year harvest was a bit of a dud , this year is critical .
It's critical not for rich countries but for the whole raft of poor food importing states
many have food subsidies for their urban masses
it grieve their budget but cannot be touched without having riots in the streets
if the prices go through the roof , food rationing will have to be implemented
that means malnutrition
Should there be a couple of bad years ,
that means starvation for some , malnutrition for even more
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Re: Severe cold to cause produce shortage over next few mont

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Mon 14 Feb 2011, 06:43:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sparky', '.')
Basically world food is grains , wheat , rice corn and "coarse" IE buckwheat , barley , shorgun ..etc..etc
the vegs and fruits are important locally but not worldwide , except as local cash crop

production keep beating records but it barely keep up with unrelenting rise in consumption


Right. Valid. Population growth and screwing up the planet are both making the long term food trends challenging, to say the least.

The thing that makes me roll my eyes at this topic (the initial article Six cited) is that the implication is (IMO) a local cold snap implies there is no global warming (AGW or otherwise). No matter how many times the scientific community points out that short term random weather is NOT indicitive of long term climate change, the denialists just keep citing meaningless individual examples.

OTOH, the string of recent global weather events causing massive hits to major grain crops will soon become a very worrying trend -- unless it ends soon and proves to be a spate of "bad luck". Time will tell on that.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: Severe cold to cause produce shortage over next few mont

Unread postby dolanbaker » Mon 14 Feb 2011, 07:02:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', 'N')ot this again.

Remember last February when there was a freeze in Florida which wiped out a big chunk of the tomato crop, and for a while the price of tomatoes went through the roof and when you went to a fast-food place if you wanted tomatoes on your burger you had to tell them explicitly?

Guess what? Just 4 months later farmers suddenly found themselves with a glut of tomatoes and the price crashed.


Problem is though, during the period of shortage, unless you have alternative supplies of food, people may go hungry. The next crop may be a bumper one but until it's in, it's not available and you still need to eat NOW!
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Re: Severe cold to cause produce shortage over next few mont

Unread postby Sixstrings » Mon 14 Feb 2011, 11:30:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')ORTLAND -- Get ready to pay double or even triple the price for fresh produce in the coming weeks after the worst freeze in 60 years damaged and wiped out entire crops in northern Mexico and the southwestern U.S.

The problem started less than a week ago, when our nation was focusing on the Superbowl and sheets of ice falling from Texas Stadium.
Farmers throughout northern Mexico and the Southwest experienced unprecedented crop losses. Now devastation that seemed so far away, is hitting us in the pocketbooks.

"We've had to double and triple some prices and consumers come in and it's quite a shock to them," said Rusty Peake, GM of Food4Less in Southeast Portland.
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Produce-prices-skyrocket-overnight-115985429.html


The above article is on Drudge today.. says to expect double or triple prices on produce. And the big runup in cotton futures is going to start hitting clothing costs:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Clothing Prices to Rise 10% Starting in Spring

The era of falling clothing prices is ending. Clothing prices have dropped for a decade as tame inflation and cheap overseas labor helped hold down costs.

(snip)

Brooks Brothers' wrinkle-free men's dress shirts now cost $88, up from $79.50. Levi Strauss & Co., Wrangler jeans maker VF Corp., J.C. Penney Co., Nike and designer shoe seller Steve Madden also plan increases.

More specifics on price increases are expected when clothing retailers such as J.C. Penney and Abercrombie & Fitch report financial results this month.

"All of our brands, every single brand, will take some price increases," said Eric Wiseman, chairman and CEO of VF Corp.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/41575599


EDIT:

Mexican corn crop decimated too:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')EXICO CITY, Feb. 12 (UPI) -- Mexican officials said up to 1.5 million acres of field corn has been lost to a rare winter freeze in the farm-rich state of Sinaloa.

The yield loss is expected to be four million metric tons or about 16 percent of the nation's corn, the British Broadcasting Corp. reported Saturday.

Mexican President Felipe Calderon called the freeze "an emergency situation that demands a clear and forceful response from the authorities, a response that is not lost in bureaucratic delays."
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2011/02/12/Freeze-in-Mexico-decimates-corn-crop/UPI-95191297517347/
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Re: Severe cold to cause produce shortage over next few mont

Unread postby Cog » Mon 14 Feb 2011, 18:36:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dolanbaker', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', 'N')ot this again.

Remember last February when there was a freeze in Florida which wiped out a big chunk of the tomato crop, and for a while the price of tomatoes went through the roof and when you went to a fast-food place if you wanted tomatoes on your burger you had to tell them explicitly?

Guess what? Just 4 months later farmers suddenly found themselves with a glut of tomatoes and the price crashed.


Problem is though, during the period of shortage, unless you have alternative supplies of food, people may go hungry. The next crop may be a bumper one but until it's in, it's not available and you still need to eat NOW!


I'm not required to eat tomatoes or any other fresh produce that is affected by the freeze. I'm not going to starve as a result. I will simply eat something else that is cheaper or imported from South America.
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Re: Severe cold to cause produce shortage over next few mont

Unread postby Niagara » Mon 14 Feb 2011, 18:56:47

Food shortages? Good. It's just what the doctor ordered for a nation of fat slobs.

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Re: Severe cold to cause produce shortage over next few mont

Unread postby Ludi » Mon 14 Feb 2011, 19:16:26

Yeah, all those salads and fresh vegies sure make folks fat! :lol:
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Re: Severe cold to cause produce shortage over next few mont

Unread postby highlander » Mon 14 Feb 2011, 19:25:39

While local harvests have some bearing on global food prices, a much larger factor is US economic policy. Add to that speculation by financial types, we could have a very expensive thanksgiving. China food prices have increased several percent in the last ten days.

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Re: Severe cold to cause produce shortage over next few mont

Unread postby dolanbaker » Mon 14 Feb 2011, 21:00:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dolanbaker', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', 'N')ot this again.

Remember last February when there was a freeze in Florida which wiped out a big chunk of the tomato crop, and for a while the price of tomatoes went through the roof and when you went to a fast-food place if you wanted tomatoes on your burger you had to tell them explicitly?

Guess what? Just 4 months later farmers suddenly found themselves with a glut of tomatoes and the price crashed.


Problem is though, during the period of shortage, unless you have alternative supplies of food, people may go hungry. The next crop may be a bumper one but until it's in, it's not available and you still need to eat NOW!


I'm not required to eat tomatoes or any other fresh produce that is affected by the freeze. I'm not going to starve as a result. I will simply eat something else that is cheaper or imported from South America.

The point I'm making is that if it's a staple food that is in short supply, it doesn't matter if the next harvest is projected to be a good one, you still need to eat now!
If it's a supplimentary food, then there is no real issue, except the diet becomes less varied.
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Re: Severe cold to cause produce shortage over next few mont

Unread postby Sixstrings » Mon 14 Feb 2011, 21:52:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Niagara', 'F')ood shortages? Good. It's just what the doctor ordered for a nation of fat slobs.


That pic is photoshopped.. right? 8O 8O
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Re: Severe cold to cause produce shortage over next few mont

Unread postby the48thronin » Tue 15 Feb 2011, 01:15:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Niagara', 'F')ood shortages? Good. It's just what the doctor ordered for a nation of fat slobs.


That pic is photoshopped.. right? 8O 8O


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Re: Severe cold to cause produce shortage over next few mont

Unread postby papa moose » Tue 15 Feb 2011, 01:32:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Niagara', 'F')ood shortages? Good. It's just what the doctor ordered for a nation of fat slobs.


That pic is photoshopped.. right? 8O 8O


Isn't that what all americans look like?
But seriously if she is real i'm not surprised, it's the chair i'm fascinated by, a double width folding chair! A folding sofa if you will, does such a thing exist? Links please
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Re: Severe cold to cause produce shortage over next few mont

Unread postby dolanbaker » Tue 15 Feb 2011, 06:42:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('papa moose', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Niagara', 'F')ood shortages? Good. It's just what the doctor ordered for a nation of fat slobs.


That pic is photoshopped.. right? 8O 8O


Isn't that what all americans look like?
But seriously if she is real i'm not surprised, it's the chair i'm fascinated by, a double width folding chair! A folding sofa if you will, does such a thing exist? Links please

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Re: Severe cold to cause produce shortage over next few mont

Unread postby Sixstrings » Tue 15 Feb 2011, 06:53:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('papa moose', 'I')sn't that what all americans look like?
But seriously if she is real i'm not surprised, it's the chair i'm fascinated by, a double width folding chair! A folding sofa if you will, does such a thing exist? Links please


I think it's photoshopped.. her upper half is too small in comparison to her legs. Actually I feel bad for her, she looks like a nice lady -- if it's a real pic we're just laughing at a handicapped person who got out to get some sunshine.

But yeah the point is valid that *most* Americans could benefit from some food shortages.
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Re: Severe cold to cause produce shortage over next few mont

Unread postby sparky » Tue 15 Feb 2011, 07:32:13

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The pity is that it's not fat Americans who are going to lose weight but poor people in poor country who are going to stave
proverbs 36/12...And the lord made it thus than the rich shall have the food and the poor the appetite

P.S. in my post above I stuffed up it's not 2.2 millions tonnes , it's 2200 millions tonnes
like 1000 time more ....and nobody noticed :( :(
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Re: Severe cold to cause produce shortage over next few mont

Unread postby Fishman » Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:00:37

Fat lady is the poorest of examples. Produce shortages lead to malnutriion perhaps but certainly not necessarily weight loss. She didn't get that size (nor others) from eating too much spinach. This will drive the poor to eat poorer quality foods, not nec. fewer calories. So she gets her cheeseburger with no lettuce or tomato, thats about 15 calories, but most of the vitamins and fiber of the burger.
Starvation comes from the loss of basis grains. Go up on rice costs 50% and millions starve.

Dang this global warming, getting fat people fatter.
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