[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', 'I')t will still be a machine, albeit a thinking machine.

It will NOT have a sense of humour, be able to pick it's nose, scratch it's arse,
just say "sod it" or bugger off home early on friday afternoon.

Dull, boring days ahead.

Gas

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', 'I')t will still be a machine, albeit a thinking machine.

It will NOT have a sense of humour, be able to pick it's nose, scratch it's arse,
just say "sod it" or bugger off home early on friday afternoon.

Dull, boring days ahead.

Gas

[Golgo13]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('green_achers', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.')..whatever it is our brains are doing when they create consciousness — not just doing arithmetic very quickly or composing piano music but also driving cars, writing books, making ethical decisions, appreciating fancy paintings, making witty observations at cocktail parties.

[Sys1]

"How could a computer ever tell a joke, if it's never felt pain?"

This is a story from my father-in-law who was computer/physic teacher. He knew a friend who tryed to develop an AI, that was actually similar to what is called today "Chatbot". For tests, many questions more or less difficult were asked. This is the pretty funny "log" :

User : Hello!
Computer : Hi!
User : I have a question for you!
Computer : I'm ready.
User : What is Earth's weight?
Computer : With or without humans?

By the way, I'm developping myself (just for fun, since my job has nothing to do with this) a french chatbot for 2 years. From previous posts, I can tell you that we won't ever be able to create intelligence without a "true body". The 5 feeling are necessary to create AI, pain and pleasure must be modelized with it. Imagine someone (or here a machine) unable to touch, to see, to hear, to smell, to taste. What would be the point to have a brillant brain?
Moreover, it's crazy to think that a true AI would not search for fun or stop working. Journalists writing that are melting some "qualities" of basic machine with a supposed God brain. Nonsense. It's like a naughty boy asking Santa to bring him a true Optimus Prime.
A true AI could either decide to paint, to suicide, or to have fun playing starcraft or chess with its friends. AI could eventually even create a virtual world in which it would be happy forever with its.... human avatar. AI could also decide to create a breach in spacetime in order to create a new Big Bang instead of letting the universe expand forever. This case would be interesting. The origine of the universe would be itself, and God a super computer playing with the limits of physic.
Whatever the AI, note that humans are not playing any role (beside creating the first one). AI would mean mankind is obsolete.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sys1', 'U')ser : Hello!
Computer : Hi!
User : I have a question for you!
Computer : I'm ready.
User : What is Earth's weight?
Computer : With or without humans?

[mididoctors]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sys1', ' ')human avatar. AI could also decide to create a breach in spacetime in order to create a new Big Bang instead of letting the universe expand forever. This case would be interesting. The origine of the universe would be itself, and God a super computer playing with the limits of physic.
Whatever the AI, note that humans are not playing any role (beside creating the first one). AI would mean mankind is obsolete.

[Carlhole]

It seems to me that the crazier scientific assertion is that humans are unable to understand biology. This hasn't been proved and doesn't seem likely at all.

But if scientists are ABLE to understand biology, then we will have a Singularity event.

Mapping the fruit fly brain

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ASHINGTON — A new computer-based technique is exploring uncharted territory in the fruit fly brain with cell-by-cell detail that can be built into networks for a detailed look at how neurons work together. The research may ultimately lead to a complete master plan of the entire fly brain. Mapping the estimated 100,000 neurons in a fly brain, and seeing how they interact to control behavior, will be a powerful tool for figuring out how the billions of neurons in the human brain work.

[mididoctors]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'I')t seems to me that the crazier scientific assertion is that humans are unable to understand biology. This hasn't been proved and doesn't seem likely at all.

But if scientists are ABLE to understand biology, then we will have a Singularity event.

[Arthur75]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'I')t seems to me that the crazier scientific assertion is that humans are unable to understand biology.

[peripato]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'J')esus WILL return in clouds of glory.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peripato', ' ')Unfortunately, it will not be humans that transcend biology, but biology that transcends us, in the form of a dieoff.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'A')ctually Gas raises a good point. If you think about it, "humanity" is more than just neurons. We're hugely influenced by hormones as well -- from testosterone, estrogen, adrenaline, etc. How could that ever be modeled by an AI? And, who we are is really the product of many years of programming, so to speak. How could a computer ever tell a joke, if it's never felt pain?

To create real artificial human intelligence you'd have to model everything, hormones plus all the life experience of being human. So I don't think the AI will be human intelligence, but a new kind of sentience.

[NickyBoy]

There are many reasons why a ‘pure’ Artificial Intelligence is unlikely to emerge in the format that the media/vocal supporters present, but the viewpoints of some of the luddites in this thread are significantly wide of the mark (“I do not understand this therefore it cannot happen”- Seriously? That’s the worst aspect of human ignorance being displayed right there.)

Adaptive expert systems designed to work at a very deep interactive level (potentially deeper than via our senses) with humans are far more likely to arrive first, as they are a simple extrapolation of modern technology that provide the majority of the benefits derived from an AI without the need to programmatically reproduce sentience.

We already see this trend occurring, with human support tools being found in ever shrinking electronic devices and each generation learning to use them with a higher degree of instinctive expertise.

If the Singularity event does occur it will be the child of Synthetic Hybrid Intelligences – Data retrieval/storage/processing devices with lightning fast logical decision making directly wired up to a human brain that provides sentient oversight and intuitive decision making.

If we don’t kill ourselves and our civilization first, some form of singularity event via Synthetic Hybrid Intelligences is almost inevitable….but that’s a bloody big if!

[Arthur75]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NickyBoy', '(')“I do not understand this therefore it cannot happen”- Seriously? That’s the worst aspect of human ignorance being displayed right there.)

blah blah blah

[NickyBoy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Arthur75', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NickyBoy', '(')“I do not understand this therefore it cannot happen”- Seriously? That’s the worst aspect of human ignorance being displayed right there.)

blah blah blah

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peripato', ' ')Unfortunately, it will not be humans that transcend biology, but biology that transcends us, in the form of a dieoff.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '
')Dieoff makes your smile?

[mididoctors]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NickyBoy', '
')
1. Integration with mobile technology, allowing access to the support system from a wider range of small devices.

2. Improvements in user interaction, increasing how intuitive and instinctive the system is to use.

[peripato]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '
')Dieoff makes your smile?

[vaseline2008]

To be a true AI wouldn't the AI need to be given the freedom to choose whether it is "good" or "evil"? I'm not so sure any human would want to create a program that would allow it to become evil and possibly take us over...just saying...think of Robocop's prime Directive #4. So in that regards, I truly don't believe we will ever have a true AI but more like slave AI that will do all of our bidding. Well, we already have those kinds of things with automated telephone systems, robots that vacuum your floor, and traffic cameras that give us tickets.