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What about 1st and 2nd Quarter 2006 Production?

Postby Newsseeker » Tue 17 May 2005, 17:28:05

It seems that everyone from Simmons to Boone is warning about the fourth quarter of this year. Question: what do people think the 1st and 2nd quarter (and on) will look like next year? Is 84 million bpd the cap or can it expand?
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Postby linlithgowoil » Tue 17 May 2005, 18:36:35

look at the megaprojects update. i think, according to this, it looks like we can very much get to beyond 84million. probably closer to 87-88million per day by 2008, but after that, the decline gets too big for the megaprojects to make up for.

any guesses on the peak value then? rather than the date?

i say 89 million barrels per day, possibly 90.
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Postby RonMN » Tue 17 May 2005, 20:09:19

If the do get to 89-90 MBPD then it just makes the decline steeper :cry:

The more we push for oil NOW...then the less we get in the long run and the harder the crash! :(
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Postby sjn » Tue 17 May 2005, 20:18:09

90mbpd? I don't think so. I think we're there now and Saudi production is going to start falling fast. The new projects coming on line may keep the production at current levels for a while, maybe, but they won't long be able to offset a rapid drop of output from Saudi Arabia.
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Postby 2007 » Wed 18 May 2005, 08:49:45

86 mb/d Q4 this year?

According to the latest BP report, or BP Amoco report, average global production didn't even nudge over 80 mb/d in 2003.

So, in 2 years, NET prod is supposed to have risen with more than 3 mb/d. That doesn't sound plausible to me.
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Re: What about 1st and 2nd Quarter 2006?

Postby RdSnt » Wed 18 May 2005, 09:18:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newsseeker', 'I')t seems that everyone from Simmons to Boone is warning about the fourth quarter of this year. Question: what do people think the 1st and 2nd quarter (and on) will look like next year? Is 84 million bpd the cap or can it expand?


Read Puplava's series:
http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/2005/0222.html

This gives a good outline of what may come, so far he has been quite close in his analysis.
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Postby Revi » Wed 18 May 2005, 13:11:02

So far Puplava's very close. He said that one US automaker would be at junk bond status in 2005. Who knew it would be two? I have a bad feeling about the end of this coming year and the winter of 2005-06. Maybe it's too early for much to happen, but it sure feels like financial problems are coming in the wake of Peak Oil.
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Re: What about 1st and 2nd Quarter 2006?

Postby Grimnir » Wed 18 May 2005, 17:12:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newsseeker', 'I')t seems that everyone from Simmons to Boone is warning about the fourth quarter of this year.


Didn't I just see an article on Bloomberg saying that US inventories right now in May are high enough to cover the entire remainder of the year (which is why crude prices are dropping)? I thought I did, but their articles don't hang around long. Did I misunderstand? When I think about how high per-day consumption is, it seems crazy to think that half a year's supply could just be stockpiled... Maybe what they meant is that inventories are high enough that we'll be ok for the rest of the year at expected production levels.
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Postby clv101 » Wed 18 May 2005, 17:18:37

The SPR is what, around 700 million barrels? The US imports around 13 million barrels per day, so I guess the SPR is good for a little less than 2 months imports.
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Postby bobeau » Wed 18 May 2005, 20:32:26

I thought the max extraction rate from the reserve (currently about half full?) is like 2 MB/D? In that context the end of the year comment makes sense.
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Postby RdSnt » Wed 18 May 2005, 22:31:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'S')o far Puplava's very close. He said that one US automaker would be at junk bond status in 2005. Who knew it would be two? I have a bad feeling about the end of this coming year and the winter of 2005-06. Maybe it's too early for much to happen, but it sure feels like financial problems are coming in the wake of Peak Oil.


I'm constantly re-reading Puplava's material and matching his analysis with what the markets are actually doing. Because of the close match I'm making preparations based on his analysis. Even if he is ultimately wrong, nothing that I'm doing will hurt.
So I watch the markets, read between the lines and look at specific data to see if it supports Puplava's predictions and how close. I buy gold and silver bullion, I regard it as my fall back currency if things get real bad. The commodity stocks that I own, while not doing so well at the moment, will do very well in the future. However, once the appreciate to my satisfaction I'll be liquidating them. There will be no advantage to holding onto them much beyond next year.

I'm making sure we have food stocked up, our garden is in and I'm upgrading more of the insulation in my house. I have a backup generator and hopefully I'll have time to get my steam engine setup before the economy collapses.

If Puplava's analysis is correct, panic is going to set in and the US populous in particular is going to come completely unstuck.
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