[Sixstrings]

A relative called me, in a panic, going on about how the oil is going to run out and we "have no future." I've never discussed peak oil with her. Anyhow she told me to turn on History Channel, and here's Mike Ruppert. Looks good so far.. Ruppert might be going mainstream.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')img]http://shop.history.com/img/product/resized/323/00291023-339323_275.jpg?k=70af01c4&pid=291023&s=catl[/img]
Today's world has troubles unique to its time in history, from the global financial crisis to technological meltdowns to full scale, computerized global war. Observing the convergence of such events, contemporary prophets have begun to emerge from obscurity to suggest that these conditions might be signs of the demise of the modern world. These men are historians as well, using all manner of information and patterns from the past to provide context for where we are going.

Their predictions interpret the current state of affairs in our world as evidence that the America we know may come to an end. The men proposing these ideas are not crackpots living on the streets of New York; they are intelligent, learned men who come armed with the evidence to back up their claims.
http://shop.history.com/detail.php?p=291023&v=history&ecid=PRF-2103964&pa=PRF-2103964

[mos6507]

Depends on what you mean by "mainstream". How many people saw Earth 2100? That was prime time ABC doomer porn. Came and went with a whimper. Ruppert's Collapse got a glowing review from Roger Ebert. People's attention spans are so short that they'll freak out one moment and go back to sleep the next.

[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')Man this is a trip, Ruppert's not sugarcoating anything, just laying it all out there right on History channel.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', '[')b]The water guy was the best, but of course, he was an actual professor or some such versus someone trying to sell books or website subscriptions.

[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', '[')b]The water guy was the best, but of course, he was an actual professor or some such versus someone trying to sell books or website subscriptions.

[scas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'D')epends on what you mean by "mainstream". How many people saw Earth 2100? That was prime time ABC doomer porn. Came and went with a whimper. Ruppert's Collapse got a glowing review from Roger Ebert. People's attention spans are so short that they'll freak out one moment and go back to sleep the next.

[scas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')Man this is a trip, Ruppert's not sugarcoating anything, just laying it all out there right on History channel.

[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('scas', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')Man this is a trip, Ruppert's not sugarcoating anything, just laying it all out there right on History channel.

[Outcast_Searcher]

The History Channel will show anything they think will sell (Ads and DVD's, I suppose). They show all kinds of silly 2012 end of the world stuff, all kinds of stuff related to Nostrodomus, and every crackpot sideshow you can imagine.
They show it breathlessly narrated, like we should all be real concerned.

They also show a lot of real interesting and educational documentary and real history type of stuff too. Interestingly, that stuff is generally shown in a more relaxed and/or scientific vein. Catering to the audience, I guess.

Unfortunately, given this reputation, it may be REAL hard for the audience to tell if something like Ruppert talking about Peak Oil is reasonable or pure speculative/propogandist bunk. Given the "Prophets of Doom" theme - I lean toward believing they are selling it in the propoganda format. (Of course, if he's preaching the "real doom, real soon" message, IMO, it deserves a certain amount of eye rolling).

It's unfortunate. I used to really respect the History channel, but they sold out, devoting much of their programming to BS to raise ratings and revenue.

[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '
')They show it breathlessly narrated, like we should all be real concerned.

[scas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', ' ') I used to really respect the History channel, but they sold out, devoting much of their programming to BS to raise ratings and revenue.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('scas', '
')What did you think of Earth 2100? I thought it was extremely an extremely optimistic outlook of things to come. If we follow that trajectory, I won't complain.

[hillsidedigger]

"Earth 2100" was overly optimistic even though as I recall they portrayed a tremendous oil-shock as soon as 2016.

Where I think they missed it was by predicting that a hundred million desperate Mexicans would not storm into the United States until the late 2040's and be met by machine-gun fire. That will happen much sooner.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '[')b]Unfortunately, given this reputation, it may be REAL hard for the audience to tell if something like Ruppert talking about Peak Oil is reasonable or pure speculative/propogandist bunk. Given the "Prophets of Doom" theme - I lean toward believing they are selling it in the propoganda format. (Of course, if he's preaching the "real doom, real soon" message, IMO, it deserves a certain amount of eye rolling).

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')Interestingly, Climate Change Doom wasn't included. It was mentioned very briefly in passing a couple times but that's it.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', 'T')he Terminator guy seemed a bit sci-fi,

[scas]

I just watched the show. I actually found it quite interesting, it reminded me of Sir Martin Rees' Our Final Century. Worth a watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qF26MbYgOA

Odd that they didn't mention CC. I know they're all aware of it. Maybe its because they said its 20-30 years in the future. Psychological distancing?

[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', 'T')he Terminator guy seemed a bit sci-fi,

[Sixstrings]

Found a youtube link that appears to be the whole program:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSpLUpiMkj0

It's posted by a Ron Paul supporter.. I have no idea why he has a "propaganda" warning pasted on the video.

[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'F')ound a youtube link that appears to be the whole program:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSpLUpiMkj0

It's posted by a Ron Paul supporter.. I have no idea why he has a "propaganda" warning pasted on the video.